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poli
September 27, 2010, 07:25 AM
Leí un artículo en que el esritor dijo que alguen era «tan americano que una torta de fresas» Quisiera saber si éste es común. Lo vi raro porque aquí usamos manzanas en dicho en lugar de fresas--ni ví en mi vida torta de fresas aunque parece una buena ideas hacer una torta así.

irmamar
September 27, 2010, 12:16 PM
Leí un artículo en el que el esritor dijo que alguien era «tan americano como una torta de fresas». Quisiera saber si este dicho es común. Lo vi raro porque aquí usamos/decimos manzanas en dicho en lugar de fresas--(better brackets, instead of hyphens) (ni vi en mi vida una torta de fresas aunque parece una buena ideas hacer una torta así).

I've never heard before that saying. :thinking: :)

JPablo
September 27, 2010, 12:32 PM
Same here... "as American as apple pie" sounds just right, but the strawberries... only brings to mind the Beatles song, "Strawberry fields foreeeeever..."

irmamar
September 27, 2010, 12:37 PM
No es mi fruta preferida. Tengo alergia a las fresas :mad: (y eso que me gustaban, pero... :sad: ). Lo siento, una tarta de manzana sí que me la comería, pero no de fresas. ;)

JPablo
September 27, 2010, 12:55 PM
Ah, pues a mí las fresas y los fresones me encantan... me traen recuerdos de la primera comunión de mi amigo el Josep María... con el festín de Baltasar que nos dimos en la suya con "fresas con nata" de postre (de hecho era fresones) y luego una semana más tarde, en la mía... otro festín... con fresas con nata de postre... y luego a jugar a fútbol en el campo de al lado... (para digerir bien...) Y claro, como estaba mandado por los cánones, el día de tu primera comunión era el día más feliz de tu vida... como decían que decía Napoleón (menudo elemento, el Bonaparte... parecía un ensayo de Hitler... por mucho que lo ensalcen los estrategas...) Pero ya me salgo de tema... para variar...

Los mejores fresones que recuerdo, los de Arenys de Munt (tenía yo varios amigos de allá...)

Bueno, para que no digan que me salgo de tema, aquí tenemos a una señora ¿andaluza? dando una receta factible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_48-fqmplHg

irmamar
September 27, 2010, 01:01 PM
No sé, pero he empezado a ver el vídeo y ya me he puesto a estornudar. :thinking:

En mi casa hacían las fresas con zumo de naranja. A mí me encantaban así, mejor que con nata (antes de correr a urgencias, claro) :mad:

Me quedo con la de manzana, que aquí hay muchas y muy buenas. :D

Por cierto, ¿por qué dicen que la tarta de manzana es americana? :thinking:

JPablo
September 27, 2010, 01:12 PM
Vaya, pues sí que es fuerte la alergia...

Aquí tienes una buena respuesta a tu pregunta:

Since the earliest colonial days, apple pies have been enjoyed in America for breakfast, for an entrée, and for dinner. Colonist wrote home about them and foreign visitors noted apple pie as one of our first culinary specialties.' We cannot claim to have invented the apple pie, just to have perfected it." But here's the surprising part. The expression "as American as apple pie," the authors say, is not that old. "Apple pie figures in our figurative language, too, as in the expressions 'simple as pie' (since everyone supposedly knows how to make apple pie) and, though not an Americanism, 'apple-pie order' (1780). But it was only in the twentieth century, apparently in the 1960s, that we began to be 'as American as apple pie.'"

(Sacado de aquí: http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/5/messages/1391.html)

Perikles
September 27, 2010, 01:26 PM
Apple pie must have been discovered long before America was....

chileno
September 27, 2010, 01:31 PM
En todo caso en Chile decimos "Más chileno que los porotos" :rolleyes:

pjt33
September 27, 2010, 04:15 PM
We cannot claim to have invented the apple pie, just to have perfected it."
They can claim whatever they want, but I suspect that the Dutch had already perfected it.

poli
September 27, 2010, 06:13 PM
They can claim whatever they want, but I suspect that the Dutch had already perfected it.
I thought the French mastered it with tart tartin. Anyway apple pie can be very good if its made right with tart apples, nuts, raisins and cinnamon. Usually it's cloyingly sweet and not worth the calories and cholesterol.

The Dutch settled much of the Northeastern United States which includes
prime apple country. It wouldn't surprize me if Dutch bakers in New Amsterdam baked apple pies.

chileno
September 27, 2010, 06:33 PM
Apple kuchen and apple strudel were my favorite in Chile. :)

vita32
September 30, 2010, 11:47 AM
Vaya, pues sí que es fuerte la alergia...

Aquí tienes una buena respuesta a tu pregunta:

Since the earliest colonial days, apple pies have been enjoyed in America for breakfast, for an entrée, and for dinner. Colonist wrote home about them and foreign visitors noted apple pie as one of our first culinary specialties.' We cannot claim to have invented the apple pie, just to have perfected it." But here's the surprising part. The expression "as American as apple pie," the authors say, is not that old. "Apple pie figures in our figurative language, too, as in the expressions 'simple as pie' (since everyone supposedly knows how to make apple pie) and, though not an Americanism, 'apple-pie order' (1780). But it was only in the twentieth century, apparently in the 1960s, that we began to be 'as American as apple pie.'"

(Sacado de aquí: http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/5/messages/1391.html)

This American sentiment is probably made strong (reinforced) by Don McLean's song, "Bye Bye Miss American Pie" or that Don McLean was able to capture in this song the general feeling and mood of the Americans during this period (1959-1970).

http://understandingamericanpie.com/

:)

Chris
September 30, 2010, 06:46 PM
My wife made me some apple cobbler once. Only it was squash and told me it was apple cobbler. I dug into it and immediately spit it out wondering how in the world she got apples to not taste sweet. After that she came clean and told me it was squash. She said she did it because I had told her that I don't eat squash.

vita32
September 30, 2010, 06:56 PM
I like warm apple pie topped with vanilla icecream. Yummy!

hermit
October 04, 2010, 08:19 AM
I've never had strawberry pie either, but strawberry-rhubarb pie is
well-known in North America (but perhaps not in Mexico)...