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laepelba
December 11, 2010, 08:41 PM
I have three questions about the sentences in this exercise:

4) English: This hotel is on the outskirts of Madrid.
My answer: Este hotel está en las afueras de Madrid.
The answer in the book: Este hotel esta en las afueras de Madrid.
My question: Did they leave off the accent on está by accident? Or why isn't it there?

5) English: We travel at night and rest in a sleeping car.
My answer: Viajamos por la noche y descansamos en un coche cama.
The answer in the book: Viajamos de noche y descansamos en un choche cama.
My question: Why "de" instead of "por la"?

6) English: Lina never brings her umbrella.
My answer: Lina nunca lleva su paraguas.
The answer in the book: Lina nunca trae el paraguas.
My question: Why traer vs. llevar in this context?

Thanks!!

aleCcowaN
December 12, 2010, 05:09 AM
4) typo --> you're right

5) por la noche = en la noche ---> expresión referencial
de noche ---> el modo en que se hacen las cosas

- ¿Cuándo viajaste? - Viajé por la noche
- ¿Cómo viajaste? - Viajé de noche en tren

pero no estabas demasiado errada

6) Here I have doubts about English. As I understand it "brings umbrella" implies no intention of transporting the umbrella, just bringing it just in case it is needed, so it is "lleva paraguas".

I suspect it might have been a case of trans-language reversed "hipercorrección" (¡Voy! = Coming! ---> brings :ne: trae )

laepelba
December 12, 2010, 05:28 AM
#4 and #5 - thanks!

#6 - I'm still working on wrapping my arms around "llevar" because it is used in so many more ways that we use "carry" in English.....

aleCcowaN
December 12, 2010, 06:00 AM
Remember this:

trae paraguas (He/she/You(singular,formal) is bringing it from there to here)
trae paraguas (it has an umbrella / it comes with an umbrella / umbrella included)
trae paraguas (Someone is coming into the scene and brings an umbrella / It might be the origin of the use above)
lleva un perro (bringing it) = trae un perro (leading it by a leash)

laepelba
December 12, 2010, 06:10 AM
I didn't know some of those. Thanks! I'll learn them! :)