Tagalog (Filipino native language) - Page 2

Originally Posted by gabrieldemanila (Post 50226)

We have a lot of loan words from Spanish but the spelling has been changed slightly to match how we spell words in Tagalog. Also, some words have been corrupted slightly over the years.

Filipinos of long ago do not differentiate the O and U sounds that much and the same goes for the E and I sounds. So in some cases, the way a borrowed word is spelled reflects this switching of vowels.

Other ways how the spelling is changed is that hard C are changed to K. Same goes for QU. Soft C and Z are changed to S. CH is changed to TS. J is changed to H. Spanish H is dropped from the word altogether. IA is changed to YA. ÍA is changed to IYA. LL is changed to LY (so calle = kalye). Ñ is changed to NY except in Santo Niño (so baño = banyo). RR and R is considered the same and both are rolled the same amount. V is changed to B. F is changed to P. It may be a bit weird but it's pretty easy to remember the tagalog word for something if you know its Spanish equivalent.

Examples of loaned words, spelled in Tagalog:

Professions - Ex. artista, abogado, presidente, empleyado, kargador, bumbero, barbero, inhinyero, tsuper (chofer), kundoktor (condoctor), doktor.

Days - Lunes, martes, miyerkules, huwebes, biyernes, sabado (not domingo though)

Numbers when using it to tell time, speed limits, score tests and monetary amounts above 10 Pesos.

Kitchen and dining items - kutsara, tinidor, kutsilyo, plato, tasa, baso, mesa, silya.

Food - mansanas, ubas, kastanyas, asado, bistek, embutido, empanada, sibuyas, kalabasa, picadilyo, menudo, mantikilya, mantika, asukal (from azucar), paminta (from pimienta).

Vehicles - kotse, bus, bisikleta, tren, eroplano, barko.

Religious names and items - San Jose, Birhen, Santa Maria, Santo Niño, Santo Tomas, altar, krus, ostya, kampana, kampanilya.

And some other odd words - asul, berde, telon, asar, merienda, pasaporte, kalye, diretso, andar, maneho, pasado, pasada, parada, kama, kuryente, sala, kwarto, sobra, grabe, bintana, eskwela, kwaderno, lapis, papel (both as paper and as role), estudyante, tisa, examen, oso, lobo, elepante, kuneho, amo (master), iho, iha, madre, tiyo, tiya, etc.

Originally Posted by VivaEspana (Post 50349)

Where can you find work that is not hard, jchen? LOL All kinds of work are all hard. Even the manager or the CEO works hard. LOL . Just kiddin'. It all amounts to attitude in the workplace. I am teaching you cause you're young. I want to provide guidance. LOL

Originally Posted by brute (Post 58554)

A friend of mine has just registered on these forums. He is dkaress and needs to speak tagalog to live in the Philipines. He is new to computers and has not yet found this thread. :confused::thinking::worried:Perhaps gabrieldemanila and VivaEspaña could point him in the right direction? :DTagalog sounds an interesting language, but I'm afraid it will have to join the end of my "must do before I die" list. Mark Twain once remarked that "Life is too short to learn German". Well I am now quite good at German and French and am presently learning Spanish. I know some Dutch, Afrikaans, Swedish, Japanese, etc ........... But these are very much on the back burner at present!!!

Originally Posted by bmarquis124 (Post 49897)

Are the numbers the same as Spanish?

Originally Posted by Destarte (Post 143472)

Hola! bmarquis :) Me llama Anabelle,

To answer your question no its not the same but generally most of Filipinos especially the older generation understand uno, dos, tres... diez, veinte, treinta etc... telling the time(a las doce , a las dos) it is widely use among Filipinos. In fact my grandparents and parents has Spanish subject in their classes until they were in college and they do understand spanish. This is not a surprise since Philippines was a colony of Spain for 300 years and spanish culture is a huge part of our history. We do definitely have lots of spanish influence in our culture from food, architecture to language etc. :D

Originally Posted by Villa (Post 143481)

Hola Destarte.

I had a Filipino student in my Spanish class (aquí en California) that had just came from the Filipines. Every time I would say a Spanish word he would say "We have that word". It was pretty amazing.:eek: It was almost or was like he knew all/many Spanish words. He had never studied Spanish before a proposito/by the way.

Originally Posted by Destarte (Post 143510)

I think its mainly because for 3 centuries our country is under spanish government, and naturally some of the culture was adapted to our own which includes the language. Though some of it (words) changed and was Filipinized :D

Originally Posted by Destarte (Post 143510)

I think its mainly because for 3 centuries our country is under spanish government, and naturally some of the culture was adapted to our own which includes the language. Though some of it (words) changed and was Filipinized :D

Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 143549)

Hola. Tengo una pregunta. Do you find English or Spanish harder? :)

Ahh, your native languages are English and Filipino. So I'd imagine you'd find Spanish harder?

Saludos. :)

Originally Posted by Destarte (Post 143554)

:) well yes and no :D
No because i don't really know why but though I don't have that much background in Spanish(other than some words incorporated to Filipino language)but I generally understand the idea whenever someone is speaking to me in Spanish. but yes it is difficult since I have the tendency to mix it up with English and Filipino :o.

Originally Posted by Villa (Post 143542)

En este momento, o hoy en día en los Estados Unidos muchas personas están tratando de aprender el español para una pasatiempo divertido y por razones prácticas como para el trabajo. ¿Crees que esto también está ocurriendo en las Filipinas? ¿Crees que los filipinos quieren volver a sus raices latinas y el idioma español que el U.S. les robaron?

Originally Posted by Destarte (Post 143556)

Si, esta occuriendo aquí también pero en general es porque muchas oportunidades de trabajo toda del mundo. :D

Originally Posted by Destarte (Post 143556)

Si, esta occuriendo aquí también pero en general es porque muchas oportunidades de trabajo toda del mundo. :D

Originally Posted by Villa (Post 143560)

Lo que quiero saber amiga Destarte es si tienen la televisión en español en tu país. Estaciones de televisión en español, pues.
Por ejemplo aquí en los EE.UU. hay más de 500 estaciones de televisión en español.:eek::eek: ¿No es sorpendente que en los EE.UU., donde el lenguaje se supone que sea el inglés hay tanto TV en español?:thinking::D Para mí es divertido y interesante. Pero, por supuesto, me encanta el hecho de que tenemos tanto televisión en español aquí en el EE.UU. porque me encanta el idioma español.:):D

Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 143561)

¿Prefiere el inglés o el español?