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irmamar October 02, 2009 11:44 PM

Sorry (did I say that I was very bad at Latin?). "Eam rosam" means "esta rosa"; "una rosa" would be "unam rosam".

Secon declension (masculine, feminine and neuter nouns):

Terminaciones: -us / -er(masculine and feminine), -um (neuter) -Nominativo- // -i - Genitivo

Dominus -i (señor), puer -i (niño); templum -a (templo) -neutro

-- Singular (-us,-er,-um) ------- Plural (-us,-er, um) --------- Ejemplos

N -- -us, -er, -um ----------- -i, -i, -a ---- dominus, puer, templum/domini, pueri, templa
V-- -e, -er, -um ------------- -i, -i, -a -- domine, puer, templum/domini, pueri, templa
A ----- -um ----------------os, -os, -a-- dominum, puerum, templum/dominos, pueros, templa
G ----- -i -------------------- -orum -- domini, pueri, templi/ dominorum, puerorum, templorum
D ----- -o ------------------- -is ---- domino, puero, templo/ dominis, pueris, templis
Ab --- -o ------------------- -is



:thinking: I hadn't been told that I was going to review Latin :confused:

Ookami, are you going to study Latin next year? :)

pjt33 October 03, 2009 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 54599)
:thinking: I hadn't been told that I was going to review Latin :confused:

Revise. Review es criticar.

CrOtALiTo October 03, 2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 54540)
Madre mía... ¿dónde me he metido? Yo soy muy mala con el latín. Sólo sé cuatro cosas que recuerdo. Well, I'll try, but don't trust me so much.

I wanted to explain declensions because personal pronouns are also declined:

---- Singular --------------------------------- Plural

N ---- ego (yo) ------------------------- nos (nosotros, etc.)
A ----- me (a mí) --------------------- nos
G ---- mei (de mí) ------------------- nostri
D ---- mihi (a/para mí) ------------- nobis
Ab.--me, mecum (conmigo) ---- nobiscum

N ---- tu (tú) -------------------------- vos (vosotros, etc.)
A ---- te (a ti) ------------------------ vos
G ----tui (de ti) ---------------------- vestri
D ---- tibi (a/para mí) ------------- vobis
Ab - te, tecum (contigo) -------- vobiscum (have you ever heard Dominus vobiscum?)

N --- (nada) (él /ellos) (reflexivo)
A ---- se (a él/ellos)
G ---- sui (de él/ellos)
D ---- sibi (a/para él/ellos)
Ab - se, secum (consigo)


Like nouns, when you look for a verb meaning in a dictionary, you'll see something like this:
do, das, dare, dedi, datum - dar
habeo, habes, habere, habui, habitum - haber, tener

That is called "enunciar un verbo", which means to give the clues to conjugate it, that is: 1ª y 2ª pers. presente indicativo, infinitivo, 1ª pers. pretérito perfecto indicativo y supino (Latin has four impersonal forms: infinitivo, gerundio, participio y supino).

So, about your sentence, maybe it could be:

Eam rosam tibi do (una rosa -acusativo-, te -dativo-, doy)
Eam rosam tibi habeo (una rosa tengo para ti)
:rose:


Irmamar it's good and awesome your explanation, but anyhow my head is very silly, because I didn't understand you anything although your explanation is excellent.


The pronouns personals can be explained or written like in English or Spanish.

I mean.

I- yo
You- tu.

If you can give me the personal pronouns the most seems to as I wrote there..


I appreciate your support.

irmamar October 04, 2009 12:51 AM

:confused: But... what did I do but write the pronouns? :thinking:


Well, I think I know what you want:

Yo - ego
Tú - tu
Él/ ella - no tenían, usaban ille/illa o is/ea
Nosotros - Nos
Vosotros - Vos
Ellos - no tenían, usaban illi /illae o ii/eae

Sólo puedes usarlos como sujeto.

CrOtALiTo October 04, 2009 01:19 PM

Yes I wanted exactly it that you told me, because of the other ways that you wrote me before, really only I got it something in any times, even thought I didn't say that you explanation was bad, it not really wasn't bad in everything, if not that it wasn't understanding to me.

Now with your simple and last explanation, now I can see the different between them and well just I believe can use them in today in the future, thank one more time for your support and really you most believe me, I'm thankfulness for your patient and your help, really I appreciated it.

Perikles October 08, 2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 54411)
Lo que había oído yo es que lo dijo en griego: kai su, tekne.

No es correcto. En Latin (Shakespeare, Ceasar) es et tu, Brute? (masculino, vocativo). Pero en griego, teknon es un sustantivo neutral, y el vocativo es tambien teknon :D

pjt33 October 08, 2009 11:15 AM

Claro. Eso es lo que me pasa por no ir directamente a las fuentes:

Assidentem conspirati specie officii circumsteterunt, ilicoque Cimber Tillius, qui primas partes susceperat, quasi aliquid rogaturus propius accessit renuentique et gestum in aliud tempus differenti ab utroque umero togam adprehendit: deinde clamantem: 'ista quidem uis est!' alter e Cascis auersum uulnerat paulum infra iugulum. Caesar Cascae brachium arreptum graphio traiecit conatusque prosilire alio uulnere tardatus est; utque animaduertit undique se strictis pugionibus peti, toga caput obuoluit, simul sinistra manu sinum ad ima crura deduxit, quo honestius caderet etiam inferiore corporis parte uelata. atque ita tribus et uiginti plagis confossus est uno modo ad primum ictum gemitu sine uoce edito, etsi tradiderunt quidam Marco Bruto irruenti dixisse: kai su teknon; exanimis diffugientibus cunctis aliquamdiu iacuit, donec lecticae impositum, dependente brachio, tres seruoli domum rettulerunt. nec in tot uulneribus, ut Antistius medicus existimabat, letale ullum repertum est, nisi quod secundo loco in pectore acceperat. Fuerat animus coniuratis corpus occisi in Tiberim trahere, bona publicare, acta rescindere, sed metu Marci Antoni consulis et magistri equitum Lepidi destiterunt.

irmamar October 09, 2009 08:16 AM

Eso sin tener en cuenta que Julio César murió en el año 44 a. C. y Suetionio nació en el año 70 d. C. Habría que conocer las fuentes de Suetonio.


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