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Lienzo - Page 2


CrOtALiTo October 13, 2009 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 56115)
Yes, lienzo is a cloth. I think you are catholic; surely you've ever heard about "la Sábana Santa" (el lienzo en el que envolvieron a Jesús). :)
Not really I have never heard about thus thing, but thank you for clarifying my doubt.:)

chileno October 13, 2009 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 56031)
Chileno - it is stumped, not stomped. I don't know why I find the mistake so funny. Sorry. :)
By the way, I never thanked you for noticing it. I am still laughing at this... :)

chileno October 13, 2009 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 56098)
About your last question, I've looked it up in a dictionary and I've found "to canvass", but it's something related to "hacer campaña" when there are elections. Without knowing the meaning of this word in this sentence I had translated your sentence into the following: "la policía acordonó el área para buscar al convicto fugado". But I can't see any relation to the elections in my sentence :thinking:

"Lienzo" is a word related to construction. You can see a "lienzo" here ;)

http://www.andaluciaimagen.com/foto-...44633I0IA0.htm
Thanks Irma for that link. This is new to me.

pjt33 October 14, 2009 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 56033)
"send a self-stomped antelope" (self stamped envelope)...!
Shouldn't that be a self-obsessed stomped antelope? Otherwise how will they know where to deliver it?

chileno October 14, 2009 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 56174)
Shouldn't that be a self-obsessed stomped antelope? Otherwise how will they know where to deliver it?
That's how it got to be used back then. It is a tagline... :)

irmamar October 14, 2009 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by poli (Post 56125)
Is that St. Veronica's veil or the shroud of Turin?
The shroud of Turin. But St. Veronica's veil is also a "lienzo". It not depends on the size, but on the material it is made of. :)

Perikles October 15, 2009 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 56210)
It not depends on the size, but on the material it is made of. :)
It does not depend on...:)

irmamar October 15, 2009 06:23 AM
I think it's "depends of", isn't it? :thinking:

laepelba October 15, 2009 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 56210)
The shroud of Turin. But St. Veronica's veil is also a "lienzo". It not depends on the size, but on the material it is made of. :)
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 56287)
It does not depend on...:)
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 56313)
I think it's "depends of", isn't it? :thinking:
No - he's right. (We're being very picky with you here.) Your sentence should be as follows: "It does not depend on the size, but on the material it is made of."

IN FACT, the old-fashioned folks will say that you can't use a preposition at the end of a sentence. So, if you want to be sure not to offend any old-fashioned grammarians, you should have said: "It does not depend on the size, but on the material of which it is made." :)

irmamar October 15, 2009 06:27 AM
¡Cómo puedo ser tan tonta a veces! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: (doesn't!!!!)

I didn't know the preposition at the end of the sentence is old fashioned, I've seen similar sentences many times.

What about: "what are you listening to?"

laepelba October 15, 2009 06:31 AM
STOP IT!!! Your English is SO much better than my Spanish. You are talking about super-picky tiny details. Take it easy on yourself.

irmamar October 15, 2009 06:32 AM
Thanks, Lou Ann, you're always so kind :)

By the way, I've modified my former message, there is a question ;)

Perikles October 15, 2009 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 56315)
IN FACT, the old-fashioned folks will say that you can't use a preposition at the end of a sentence. So, if you want to be sure not to offend any old-fashioned grammarians, you should have said: "It does not depend on the size, but on the material of which it is made." :)
Yes, but nobody younger than 100 years old would say this.

Have you heard what somebody famous once said? "A preposition is the wrong word to end a sentence with, and it is a habit up with which I shall not put." :yuck:

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 56316)
What about: "what are you listening to?"
This is absolutely correct today. Don't worry about it. :)

laepelba October 15, 2009 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 56323)
Yes, but nobody younger than 100 years old would say this.
Actually, in the U.S., they taught us about not ending sentences with prepositions when I was still in school. It's only recently that I've heard that "they" have changed "their" minds about it. We ought to have an "RAE" for English. :)

irmamar October 15, 2009 06:43 AM
I didn't know that sentence, but I'll have it in mind, thanks :)

But I'm sure I've seen prepositions at the end of the sentences, that's because I use them (maybe they were from old books :thinking:)

pjt33 October 15, 2009 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 56323)
Yes, but nobody younger than 100 years old would say this.
Oi!

Well, what I would actually say is

It depends not on the size but on the material from which it's made.

Quote:
Have you heard what somebody famous once said? "A preposition is the wrong word to end a sentence with, and it is a habit up with which I shall not put." :yuck:
The version I know is attributed to Churchill as "This is the kind of nonsense up with which I will not put!" But it appears to be misattributed, and actually to have been said by an anonymous civil servant.

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 56328)
But I'm sure I've seen prepositions at the end of the sentences, that's because I use them (maybe they were from old books :thinking:)
Of course you have. 99.9%+ of native speakers put them there.

Perikles October 15, 2009 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 56337)
Well, what I would actually say is

It depends not on the size but on the material from which it's made.
Actually, that is what I would say as well, but I think we are in a small minority here. I think it is a fine point for discussion of a mother tongue, but not really for English as a foreign language.


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