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American (USA) - Page 3


poli April 16, 2009 06:20 AM

Sure, gringo works, but...
Americano is simple and gets the point across.
Estadounidense is more a more educated, worldly, specific, but it's an awkward word.
An analogy would be:
Black is to americano
what African-American is to estadounidense.
Really both are OK. The second one is more specific, educated but cumbersome. Personally I prefer the second.

chileno April 16, 2009 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo (Post 31809)
I believe that the word American is most said in my country, but anyway there is a word most said for the people, and the word is Gringo.

For example.

Who was the gringo that entered yesterday to the victor's party.

I hope this don't offend anyone.:)

In Chile, almost all blondes are called gringos/as :)

As well as, Anybody from Europe including Russians, excepting Spaniards and Italians, and maybe French

:D.

Elaina April 17, 2009 09:10 PM

They used to say that the word "gringo" was born when Mexico was being invaded by American soldiers. The soldiers wore green uniforms so the Mexicans would say......

green go (They wanted the Americans to leave Mexico) and this is how the word "gringo" was born.

Don't kill the messenger!:p

CrOtALiTo April 17, 2009 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elaina (Post 32062)
They used to say that the word "gringo" was born when Mexico was being invaded by American soldiers. The soldiers wore green uniforms so the Mexicans would say......

green go (They wanted the Americans to leave Mexico) and this is how the word "gringo" was born.

Don't kill the messenger!:p

I didn't know that the beginning of the word Gringo were for the American soldiers.

I only know that the word gringo is for the people were born in U.S.A.:confused:

chileno April 18, 2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elaina (Post 32062)
They used to say that the word "gringo" was born when Mexico was being invaded by American soldiers. The soldiers wore green uniforms so the Mexicans would say......

green go (They wanted the Americans to leave Mexico) and this is how the word "gringo" was born.

Don't kill the messenger!:p

I was told the same thing by our English teacher, in High School. :D

chileno April 18, 2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo (Post 32068)
I didn't know that the beginning of the word Gringo were for the American soldiers.

I only know that the word gringo is for the people were born in U.S.A.:confused:

So, in Mexico if there is a German or a Yugoslavian, you do not called them gringos?

CrOtALiTo April 18, 2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 32085)
So, in Mexico if there is a German or a Yugoslavian, you do not called them gringos?

No one is German and the other one is Yugoslavian, the gringo is the merely gringo.:D

You're Chileno.

chileno April 18, 2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo (Post 32094)
No one is German and the other one is Yugoslavian, the gringo is the merely gringo.:D

You're Chileno.

jajajaja!

Not in Chile.

Even a chilean blonde is referred as gringo/a sometimes.... :D

Elaina April 18, 2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo (Post 32094)
No one is German and the other one is Yugoslavian, the gringo is the merely gringo.:D

You're Chileno.

Crotalito, how can you tell that the person is German or Yugoslavian? They could just be blonde, sitting there, without saying a word and you would know they aren't "gringos"?

:hmm::hmm:

ZeroTX April 24, 2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poli (Post 31847)
Sure, gringo works, but...
Americano is simple and gets the point across.
Estadounidense is more a more educated, worldly, specific, but it's an awkward word.
An analogy would be:
Black is to americano
what African-American is to estadounidense.
Really both are OK. The second one is more specific, educated but cumbersome. Personally I prefer the second.

If that's the case, it backs up my theory that I'm American (Americano). I think the term "African-American" is retarded political-correctness rhetoric with no basis in reality. If blacks are "African-Americans" then what is everyone else? Are we going to tag the continent of origin in front of every person's ethnicity? That's ridiculous.

I'm a white American with Hispanic family roots, which go back to Spain. That doesn't make me a Spanish-American. I'm just an American...

-ZeroTX

chileno April 25, 2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroTX (Post 32833)
If that's the case, it backs up my theory that I'm American (Americano). I think the term "African-American" is retarded political-correctness rhetoric with no basis in reality. If blacks are "African-Americans" then what is everyone else? Are we going to tag the continent of origin in front of every person's ethnicity? That's ridiculous.

I'm a white American with Hispanic family roots, which go back to Spain. That doesn't make me a Spanish-American. I'm just an American...

-ZeroTX

A lot of times people confuse nationality with ethnicity.

all political correctness is retarded. It is a big oxymoron. :)

Didn't you know that poli means "many" and tic(k)s are bloodsucking creatures? :impatient:


Shio :D

CrOtALiTo April 25, 2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elaina (Post 32098)
Crotalito, how can you tell that the person is German or Yugoslavian? They could just be blonde, sitting there, without saying a word and you would know they aren't "gringos"?

:hmm::hmm:

Please you don't offend with this comment, but the different between the persons are in the skin.

You know the Mexican is different to you and you as Spain you are so different to a Russian.:)

AngelicaDeAlquezar April 25, 2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 32960)
[...]

Didn't you know that poli means "many" and tic(k)s are bloodsucking creatures? :impatient:

[...]

:lol:


They are harmful beings who try to convince you they're doing what's best for you... and your ethnic group. ;)

chileno April 26, 2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 32997)
:lol:


They are harmful beings who try to convince you they're doing what's best for you... and your ethnic group. ;)

jajaja YES. :lol:

viveka June 04, 2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroTX (Post 32833)
If that's the case, it backs up my theory that I'm American (Americano). I think the term "African-American" is retarded political-correctness rhetoric with no basis in reality. If blacks are "African-Americans" then what is everyone else? Are we going to tag the continent of origin in front of every person's ethnicity? That's ridiculous.

I'm a white American with Hispanic family roots, which go back to Spain. That doesn't make me a Spanish-American. I'm just an American...

-ZeroTX

Xero,
Considering that America and the people who rightfully call themselves Americans are
born in over 28 countries, (many Islands and nations) it is about time that we all claim our right to correct the record in the media and collective assertion on the use and meaning of American.

World Atlas map and resource page which states that,
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/na.htm

North and South America includes (23) countries and dozens of small island possesions and territories - mostly in the Caribbean. It contains all Caribbean and Central America countries, Canada, Mexico and the United States of America - three of the largest countries on the planet, as well as Greenland - the world's largest island.

Entonces, cuando ya no somos los ignorantes invadidos, o colonizados, sabemos
que todos los de esta cara del mundo somos Americanos.

Seria bueno que Americano crezca fuera de los confines de
los deseos de conquistas de los eeuu.

Nos toca a todos corregir el error, con su tocante
complejidad al aludir a otro con el apelativo de lo que es nuestro.

El complejo del invadido se ha comido a America, con excepción de los eeuu que
se adueñó del nombre.

viveka June 04, 2009 09:37 AM

Chileno,
I love it.
:)

... poli means "many" and tic(k)s are bloodsucking creatures? :impatient:

viveka June 04, 2009 09:47 AM

also, politics is the game of profit...

for profit, the end justifies the means...
and the means is lies and fairy tales of
home ownership, "home sweet home"
that belongs to the bank...

beware of words, sweet dribble for profit...
the unexamined mind...
the unexamined words...
an unexamined world...

babies only want to feel the security blanket...
mortgage... the house... and your country belongs to the bank.

The unexamined life is not worth living.” Socrates said that at his trial for heresy.

chileno June 04, 2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viveka (Post 37863)
Xero,
Considering that America and the people who rightfully call themselves Americans are
born in over 28 countries, (many Islands and nations) it is about time that we all claim our right to correct the record in the media and collective assertion on the use and meaning of American.

World Atlas map and resource page which states that,
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/na.htm

North and South America includes (23) countries and dozens of small island possesions and territories - mostly in the Caribbean. It contains all Caribbean and Central America countries, Canada, Mexico and the United States of America - three of the largest countries on the planet, as well as Greenland - the world's largest island.

Entonces, cuando ya no somos los ignorantes invadidos, o colonizados, sabemos
que todos los de esta cara del mundo somos Americanos.

Seria bueno que Americano crezca fuera de los confines de
los deseos de conquistas de los eeuu.

Nos toca a todos corregir el error, con su tocante
complejidad al aludir a otro con el apelativo de lo que es nuestro.

El complejo del invadido se ha comido a America, con excepción de los eeuu que
se adueñó del nombre.

No se trata de adueñarse del nombre, mientras cualquier persona que nace en las Américas puede ser llamado americano, lo cual realmente no lo usamos, sino más bien usamos el norte/centro/suramericano. En cambio cuando una persona de este país dice que es americano, no quiere decir que nació en el continente, sino en el pais llamado America.

A un montón de personas le cuesta entender esto, incluyendo a los americanos. :rolleyes:

viveka June 04, 2009 10:00 AM

volviendo a lo de Americanos
 
Aquí tambien lo estuvimos discutiendo, porque
de un tema pasamos a otro y llegamos a lo de

que, quienes son Americanos

para quien le pueda interesar:

http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=4166&page=2

viveka June 04, 2009 10:09 AM

Chileno! ¿y dónde queda el país llamado América?

que no existe en el mapa.

Los Estados Unidos de América, son un país en cuyo nombre hay referencia a todo un continente...

No dudo que le tienen el ojo puesto a "conquistar" a toda la América.
si estudiamos la historia de sus fundadores, podremos ver que sí tenían tendencia y planes de abarcar al continente completo. Somos el dolor de cabeza en el "backyard"... como nos llaman los historiadores estadounidenses.

Por eso la presencia desestabilizante de eeuu en tantos otros paises, donde han puesto fondos para guerras y definir. Todo estrategias para la toma.


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