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bobjenkins June 13, 2009 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 38729)
I had always heard that the word gringo came from 'green go', allegedly the simple sentence composed by a Mexican who wanted the men in their green uniforms to leave his country.
I have since learned that the etymology of the word gringo is griego, which was used in Spain long before it came across the Atlantic. The Spaniards used griego to mean a foreigner. In English, we apply the same word to foreign languages, and concepts, we don't know - "That's/It's Greek to me." But we don't use it to mean a foreigner.
Sí aprendí que se usa "green go" al Alamo. Los Mexicanos quieron que David bowie y sus amigos se vayan. Los Americanos llevaron ropas verdes, entonces Los Mexicanos gritaron, "green go!!"

Tomisimo June 13, 2009 03:52 PM
There have been a number of possible theories as to the origin of the term gringo, but they are theories. The etymology of the word is unknown.

bobjenkins June 13, 2009 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomisimo (Post 38770)
There have been a number of possible theories as to the origin of the term gringo, but they are theories. The etymology of the word is unknown.
Sí, la gente siempre crean los mitos;)

Ambarina June 14, 2009 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Elaina (Post 38748)
gringo http://www.etymonline.com/graphics/dictionary.gif 1849, from Mex.Sp. gringo, contemptuous word for "foreigner," from Sp. gringo "foreign, unintelligible talk, gibberish," perhaps ult. from griego "Greek." The "Diccionario Castellano" (1787) says gringo was used in Malaga for "anyone who spoke Spanish badly," and in Madrid for "the Irish."


Asi que usando el último ejemplo en la definición aqui arriba, quizás le decían "gringo" a los americanos que estaban en México solo porque hablaban muy mal el Español.:thinking:

hmmmmm
Interesting. No one uses the word "gringo" now to mean a foreigner. It is now understood as specific to someone from US.
The disrespectful word used now in Spain for foreigner is "guiri".

CrOtALiTo June 14, 2009 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Elaina (Post 38748)
gringo http://www.etymonline.com/graphics/dictionary.gif 1849, from Mex.Sp. gringo, contemptuous word for "foreigner," from Sp. gringo "foreign, unintelligible talk, gibberish," perhaps ult. from griego "Greek." The "Diccionario Castellano" (1787) says gringo was used in Malaga for "anyone who spoke Spanish badly," and in Madrid for "the Irish."


Asi que usando el último ejemplo en la definición aqui arriba, quizás le decían "gringo" a los americanos que estaban en México solo porque hablaban muy mal el Español.:thinking:

hmmmmm
I believe that your explain more near of the meaning of the word Gringo, here in Mexico is named to a person gringo when the person does not speak very well the Spanish in out country, therefore it mean should to be more near to the reality.

chileno June 18, 2009 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ambarina (Post 38824)
Interesting. No one uses the word "gringo" now to mean a foreigner. It is now understood as specific to someone from US.
The disrespectful word used now in Spain for foreigner is "guiri".
In Chile gringo is still used to indicate a foreigner (non hispanic) including Americans.

:D

brute June 18, 2009 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins (Post 38765)
Sí aprendí que se usa "green go" al Alamo. Los Mexicanos quieron que David bowie y sus amigos se vayan. Los Americanos llevaron ropas verdes, entonces Los Mexicanos gritaron, "green go!!"
Green grow the rushes o!:
This old campfire song also contains the words :
"2 to the lily-white boys cloth-ed all in green ho ho!

Lily-white refers to the pale skin of the Americans in their green uniforms. Two of the gringo theories appear in the same song! However I still prefer the griego theory

Arielle June 19, 2009 11:30 AM
I'm still a little confused. Is gringo a slang term used in a more condescending way to outsiders or is it solely for descriptive purposes of foreigners?

Tomisimo June 19, 2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Arielle (Post 39368)
I'm still a little confused. Is gringo a slang term used in a more condescending way to outsiders or is it solely for descriptive purposes of foreigners?
It can be both. But I think it's used more as a descriptive term when talking about Americans/foreigners.

laepelba June 27, 2009 03:57 AM
Just to stir the pot a little bit ... every once in a while, I will refer to myself (kiddingly) as a "gringo" in my classroom, and my hispanic students get a bit agitated, in a protective kind of way ... "Don't call yourself THAT, Miss A.!!" They pretty much try to convince me that I don't really know how bad it is what I just called myself....

chileno June 27, 2009 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 40276)
Just to stir the pot a little bit ... every once in a while, I will refer to myself (kiddingly) as a "gringo" in my classroom, and my hispanic students get a bit agitated, in a protective kind of way ... "Don't call yourself THAT, Miss A.!!" They pretty much try to convince me that I don't really know how bad it is what I just called myself....
That happens here. At least in Chile nobody considers the word gringo to be derogatory in any way, if anything, it could be considered a term of endearment.

Of course, you can use the word gringo in an offensive way, just like any other word if one wants. :-)

guille101 September 09, 2009 01:19 AM
Algunos cacharon la onda. Otros no.De los que cacharon, unos se fueron por un lado y otros por el otro. Chao Chileno. Prepegupuntapa: Tepevasapacapamviapaelpenombre aqui tambien. Espero que no hayas entrado en un problema existencial con todas estas respuestas?

chileno September 09, 2009 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by guille101 (Post 50517)
Algunos cacharon la onda. Otros no.De los que cacharon, unos se fueron por un lado y otros por el otro. Chao Chileno. Prepegupuntapa: Tepevasapacapamviapaelpenombre aqui tambien. Espero que no hayas entrado en un problema existencial con todas estas respuestas?
Para nada.

Cuando o donde me he cambiado el nombre? (online handle since 1987)

¿Que viejos escritos traduces, y en que idioma(s)?

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 09, 2009 10:52 AM
@Hernán: ¿Afasífi quefe tiefenefes mufuchafas ifidefentifidafadefes (American included)? :D

Sorry, couldn't help the joke. ;)

chileno September 10, 2009 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 50577)
@Hernán: ¿Afasífi quefe tiefenefes mufuchafas ifidefentifidafadefes (American included)? :D
Solo una cara toda la vida. :)

Se me occurre, aunque no cierto 100%, que guille no ha salido de chile todavía... y no sabe que el idioma ese (:eek:) tiene varios dialectos...:):D:lol:



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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 50577)
Sorry, couldn't help the joke. ;)

Siempre bienvenida... espero que que nuestros amigos ingleses se acoplen un poco y lo ventilen....para poder acoplarse, que después de todo es lo mismo en inglés. :)

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 10, 2009 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 50797)

[...] el idioma ese (:eek:) tiene varios dialectos...:):D:lol:

[...]
Éste dialecto se habla entre algunos grupos indígenas mexicanos... debe ser la variante "norteamericana". ;)

CrOtALiTo September 10, 2009 11:36 AM
Somebody knows Mayan language.?

chileno September 10, 2009 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 50820)
Éste dialecto se habla entre algunos grupos indígenas mexicanos... debe ser la variante "norteamericana". ;)
Claro... :)

Y la versión americana se llama latín cochino...:whistling:

:showoff:

irmamar September 10, 2009 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo (Post 50836)
Somebody knows Mayan language.?
Do you? :thinking:

laepelba September 10, 2009 03:34 PM
:thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking: :thinking::thinking::thinking:


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