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Las Matemáticas — Mathematics - Page 5


laepelba October 31, 2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 98420)
Un conjunto es contable o numerable si es finito. ;)

Did you say here that a set is "countable" if it is "finite"? I do not agree. The set of natural numbers is countable, AND it is infinite. Likewise the set of rational numbers. Likewise the set of positive, even numbers. And so on....

irmamar October 31, 2010 12:32 PM

Many years have passed since I studied 'teoría de conjuntos', but not all the infinite sets are countable, are they? The points of a straight line are not countable (son no contables). Rational or natural numbers set are countable, but not real numbers set (or I think so). :thinking: Well, you'll know better than I. ;) :)

laepelba October 31, 2010 12:34 PM

No, for example, the irrational numbers are both infinite AND uncountable. In fact, between any two natural numbers there are an uncountable and infinite number of irrational numbers. :D

irmamar October 31, 2010 12:41 PM

Thanks :). I should revise my rusty maths. :thinking: :)

laepelba October 31, 2010 03:20 PM

Nah - since when do you need to know the countability or non-countability of finite sets? :)

irmamar November 01, 2010 06:42 AM

I had to study hard maths and I liked them. But when I changed my degree (I was studying Computer Engineering) I forgot all that I studied so hard. So I think it must be somewhere in my brain and, when I'll finish my current degree, I want to go back with which I left (if I feel like then, of course). ;)

Perikles November 01, 2010 07:03 AM

I might get into trouble for this: :kiss:

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 98583)
I had to study hard for maths and I liked them it (singular). But when I changed my degree (I was studying Computer Engineering) I forgot all that I studied so hard. So I think it must be somewhere in my brain and, when I'll I (present) finish my current degree, I want to go back with which to the one I left (if I feel like it then, of course). ;)


Cloudgazer November 01, 2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 98420)
Un conjunto es contable o numerable si es finito. ;)

Esto es verdad (por definición). :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 98442)
Did you say here that a set is "countable" if it is "finite"? I do not agree. The set of natural numbers is countable, AND it is infinite. Likewise the set of rational numbers. Likewise the set of positive, even numbers. And so on....

Fíjate en que Irma no dijiste "si y sólo si", es decir, "sii" o "iff", sólo dijiste "si". Un conjunto tiene que ser numerable si es finito. Su afirmación no dice nada acerca de las propiedades de los conjuntos infinitos, que pueden ser numerables o no, como nos has apuntado. :D

pjt33 November 02, 2010 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 98590)
I might get into trouble for this: :kiss:

I think the initial correction is wrong. I understood it rather as "I had to study advanced maths".

irmamar November 02, 2010 01:29 AM

My dear Cloud. Welcome back :kiss:

Yes, that '<=>' . How do you say "si y sólo si" in English? If and only if? :thinking:

Perikles, later I'll talk to you... seriously. :D :kiss:

Perikles November 02, 2010 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 98644)
I think the initial correction is wrong. I understood it rather as "I had to study advanced maths".

Ah yes - makes more sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 98646)
. How do you say "si y sólo si" in English? If and only if? :thinking:".

Yes - if and only if, shortened to iff amongst mathematicians (especially when using txt msgs.:rolleyes:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 98644)
Perikles, later I'll talk to you... seriously. :D :kiss:

:crazy::crazy: :rose:

laepelba November 02, 2010 02:52 AM

Yes, it's "if and only if", and he's most definitely correct about that. Your statement with the "if" is correct as stands. Wow - I've been teaching Algebra 1 for tooooooo long! :)

pjt33 November 02, 2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 98653)
:crazy::crazy: :rose:

Get your attributions right, sir!

:p

Perikles November 02, 2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 98728)
Get your attributions right, sir!

:p

Ooops. How the hell did that happen? :o

laepelba March 03, 2011 04:48 AM

Would it be possible to add the following to the list of "fields":
  • Geometry
  • Analysis
  • Topology
  • Probability
  • Statistics
  • Discrete Mathematics
  • Number Theory
  • Arithmetic
  • Combinatorics
  • Differential Equations
  • Logic

Thanks!! :)

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 03, 2011 09:20 AM

That's too long to be done just like that. You can make the lists of the vocabulary you want to learn and then we'll be able to help you find the equivalents, so they'll be added to the tables. :)

Cloudgazer March 03, 2011 10:54 AM

Had a spare moment, so:

Geometría (la) = Geometry
Análisis (el) = Analysis
Topología (la) = Topology
Probabilidad (la) = Probability
Estadística (la) = Statistics
Matemática discreta (la) = Discrete Mathematics
Teoría de números (la) = Number Theory
Aritmética (la) = Arithmetic
Combinatoria (la) = Combinatorics
Ecuaciones diferenciales (las) = Differential Equations
Lógica (la) = Logic

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 03, 2011 12:33 PM

:D Thank you, Cloud... I thought she wanted to have vocabulary of each field added. ;)

I'll insert them later, when I have some spare time to format the tables. :)

laepelba March 03, 2011 06:23 PM

Thanks, both of you! Sorry I mis-stated my request, Malila. I definitely wouldn't have asked for vocabulary without specifying. The other day I found myself wanting to talk about the field of study of "Statistics" in general, and realized that I don't know the names of most of the fields of study within the umbrella of Mathematics when speaking Spanish. Thanks so much, Cloudy. :)

This comprehensive page of mathematical terms comes in very handy. I fully intend to add vocabulary to it from some lists that I have (especially Algebra vocabulary) when I have some free time......

Cloudgazer March 04, 2011 04:26 PM

No hay de qué. :)


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