Hardest thing for you learning a new language? - Page 6

Tak. Thank you for the Russian correction. I suspect perhaps they spell it with a T in Bulgaria? By the way - Is is true that Danish pastry comes from Vienna? vienerbroed?

Now, I wonder if Danish pastry, as I know it, has any resemblence to
Danish pastry in Denmark:thinking:Maybe one day I'm go to Denmark and find out.

Hej! Hvordan gar det? Thanks for your rapid response el Danés. Your history of the Vienna Bread is very interesting. I suggest that the reason most countries do not use the "T" of restaurant, is that the French don't pronounce it themselves, these just pronounce the "N" nasally. The Japanese say re su tu ra n (They cannot add a "T" anyway without hanging an extra vowel sound on the end!)

Good question. I have only got Danish pastry in Denmark, and never anywhere else, so I wonder too, if what other countries call Danish pastry is the same which we've got here.

Sounds like a reasonable explanation. Etymology sure is interesting. In Danish and Swedish (and probably also Norwegian) the word restaurant (restaurang in Swedish) is pronounced neither with a /t/ nor a /n/ in the end, but with a /ŋ/ (like in the English word finger) The Danish is normally pronounced /ʁɛstˢoʁaŋ/, but when speaking slowly and more formal, /ʁɛstˢauʁantˢ/, which also is closer to the spelling. The Korean equivalent also uses /ŋ/: 레스토랑 (re-seu-to-rang, /ɾesɯtoraŋ/).

Edit:
I forgot to ask whether you have studied Danish or just know a bit? So far, I think I have only spotted one grammatical mistake in all of your posts including Danish, so you seem pretty good at it. And oh, a tip, instead of æ, ø and å, you can use ae, oe and aa. That's how the Danes themselves do when they don't have access to the right letters.

Paa gensyn!

Thanks for the corrections and the transliteration tips ae oe and aa. I must get around to setting up a Danish keyboard. A few years ago I taught myself some Swedish because my sister married a Swede. The marriage only lasted 2 years and she is now back in England. I have thus put my Scandinavian studies on hold. Recently I picked up a second hand Danish couse in a charity shop to add to my extensive multilingual studies library. As with many other languages I have dabbled with Danish. My second language is German, followed by French, Spanish, Dutch and Afrikaans in that order. My father was South African. About 10 years ago I spent a year learning Japanese, but I have since forgotten most of it. I confess to being a bit of an anorak where languages are concerned.

Oh, I see. I must say you have picked Danish up pretty well then.

Interesting, Afrikaans. I used to study Afrikaans myself a bit, just for fun and because of its extraordinarily simple grammar. One is able to understand quite a lot of it without having studied it when one has a little background in German and of course, Dutch, which it is derived from. I stopped studying it though, because I'd rather spend time on other languages and because I can't really use it for anything, unless I'm going to spend some time in South Africa.

Afrikaans has very simple grammar which allows constructions such as... This is a book what I have wrote.
Conjugations like...... I is , you is, he is, us is .....
Compulsary double negatives like...... I have not seen him not
Only one gender
etc etc ...

The only rules of grammar seem to be the bad ones which uneducated English speakers tend to use.

Exactly. The only troublesome aspects of Afrikaans grammar I stumbled upon while stuyding it were the pluralization of nouns, which in many cases was irregular, and the same for the adjectives.

I think the grammar and listening is the hardest in learning a foreign language, the reading and writing will get easier if you master the grammar, to improve listening , you have to listen to a native's speaking.

Definitely listening and comprehending ALL of what's said, not just the "jist".

Also, regional differences in big languages, like Spanish, Chinese, etc. cause problems for learners.

When you are learning a new language with your own endeavor, I believe to listen audio languages in the language preferred result better than only write it for long time.

There're many causes in the that the language result hardest to learn.

I think the spelling is gist. :)

For me the most difficult is adapting the new language to the speed of my thoughts. I get nervous because I don't have the same fluency as in Spanish or English, and as a result I get frustrated.:banghead:
I also lack self-confidence. :o

Natural in most people.

That's why I recommend reading and writing the new language, yes or yes, and then reading out loud... ;)

Thanks, Chileno.
The funny thing is that I'm great at giving my students advice, but when I'm the student myself I become a nervous wreck... :sad:not always, but it does happen.:thinking:

Right, but if you do it, confidence will build right up. There no way to miss it. :)

I know, I do: I read in French from time to time, talk whenever possible, watch some films and now I've started writing to some German friends in German (instead of the usual English). Baby steps.;)

The life is ironic when you are a teacher and you teach your own knowledge, because you have the security of that you are teaching well, and when you are alone in your desktop with your book to trying to learn something new for you and that in that moment you tend to be nervous, then all the I said before result a great but great life ironic.

Aw! :rolleyes:

Why the sarcasm? :(I'm in a sensitive mood today.:o I never seem to reach an agreement with my workmates when we have to mark finals. According to them I'm too 'optimistic' and in my opinion they want the students to speak better than us.:confused:
I need a rest...:coffeebreak:
Nice reading you, as usual.:)