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Verbs ending in "-guir"


laepelba February 05, 2010 01:21 PM

Verbs ending in "-guir"
 
I'm trying to get a feel for verbs that conjugate similarly. Let me see if I get the feel for verbs ending in "-guir".....

* "gu" changes to just "g" in the first person singular form of the present indicative (sigo, consigo, distingo, irgo, extingo, etc.)
* some of the verbs with an "e" in the stem change to an "i" for 1st sing, 2nd sing, and 3rd sing & plural (sigo/sigues/etc., irgo/irgues, etc., and so on....)

I found some verbs (see below) that end in "-guir", but are there others?
distinguir
extinguir
erguir (e:i)
perseguir (e:i)
seguir (e:i)
conseguir (e:i)
proseguir (e:i)
subseguir (e:i)

Perikles February 05, 2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 71310)
I'm trying to get a feel for verbs that conjugate similarly. Let me see if I get the feel for verbs ending in "-guir".....

I can't add to your list, but I do think that there is a difference between identifying different conjugations of verbs and identifying those which are not irregular but have orthographic changes, as is the case with -guir verbs. These verbs you list all count as regular -ir verbs, but with the orthographic oddity in the written form that the -gu in the stem of an -ir verb is written -g before -a and -o. :)

irmamar February 05, 2010 02:33 PM

Look here (some practice). :)

Pero, ¿qué es irgo? :confused:

Ah, sorry! You asked about verbs ending in"guir", not in "gir". Then, here :)

laepelba February 05, 2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 71317)
Look here (some practice). :)

Pero, ¿qué es irgo? :confused:

Way cool website - thanks, Irmamar - you always have the best stuff!! :)

Isn't "irgo" the first person present indicative of "erguir"? (Alternate spelling "yergo"?)

irmamar February 05, 2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 71318)
Way cool website - thanks, Irmamar - you always have the best stuff!! :)

Isn't "irgo" the first person present indicative of "erguir"? (Alternate spelling "yergo"?)

I've edited my former post wit another link :)

You're right, irgo is the same than yergo. But I haven't heard/read it before, so I think it's not a common use. :thinking:

laepelba February 05, 2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 71320)
I've edited my former post wit another link :)

You're right, irgo is the same than yergo. But I haven't heard/read it before, so I think it's not a common use. :thinking:

Another fabulous link! Thanks!! I'm going to list their verbs here for the sake of completeness of this thread.
aseguir, condistinguir, conseguir, deseguir, distinguir, erguir, extinguir, perseguir, proseguir, reseguir, seguir, subdistinguir, subseguir
Do you think it's an exhaustive list?

And the information about "yergo" better than "irgo" is helpful. Thanks!!!

irmamar February 05, 2010 02:55 PM

Let the others tell you something about irgo (maybe in LA is different) :)

I'm thinking about it, but I can't remember another verb ending in -guir (although it's time to go to sleep here :D)

AngelicaDeAlquezar February 05, 2010 03:55 PM

@Lou Ann: Let me make two imprudent comments:
- It's easier to keep in mind the rule rather than making lists: all words derived from a "g suave" add a "u" between "g" and "e" or "g" and "i", to keep the original sound. (Same for "g fuerte", which changes to "j" with "a", "o" and "u".)
- I'll boringly repeat myself by saying that a conjugation manual would save you all the time and effort you're wasting in making a list of verbs that maybe you will never use.
Now I'll go hide inside a paper bag.


@Irma: No creo que sea regional. "Irgo" me suena equivocado. :D

laepelba February 05, 2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 71332)
@Lou Ann: Let me make two imprudent comments:
- It's easier to keep in mind the rule rather than making lists: all words derived from a "g suave" add a "u" between "g" and "e" or "g" and "i", to keep the original sound. (Same for "g fuerte", which changes to "j" with "a", "o" and "u".)
- I'll boringly repeat myself by saying that a conjugation manual would save you all the time and effort you're wasting in making a list of verbs that maybe you will never use.
Now I'll go hide inside a paper bag.

Malila - it's ME. You don't ever have to worry about being imprudent with me!! :D

Thanks for your suggestion. And I DO have a conjugation manual. I just want to get a feel for how to conjugate a verb if it comes upon me and I don't remember ever having seen it before. And when I look at a (rather short) list of verbs and know some and not others, I tend to look up and contemplate the meanings of the ones I didn't know before. BUT ... there are definitely better uses of my time!!

Get out of the paper bag, please!! I might need your suggestions on a translation!! :)

chileno February 05, 2010 04:48 PM

We also use "yergo" ...

Lou Ann maybe this will help you.



Is it understandable?

laepelba February 05, 2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 71337)
We also use "yergo" ...

Lou Ann maybe this will help you.



Is it understandable?

I think it helps. Can you give me one example? Thanks!

chileno February 05, 2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 71340)
I think it helps. Can you give me one example? Thanks!

Just follow the example that were given by your book and the ones provided by Malila ET AL. :)

laepelba February 05, 2010 05:05 PM

No, I mean can you give me an example of what you mean by your chart. I'm not sure what the second column means.....

chileno February 05, 2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 71342)
No, I mean can you give me an example of what you mean by your chart. I'm not sure what the second column means.....

The second column represents your soft sound of "G" :D

That it is a visual help more than anything, just keep looking at it until you understand it... :wicked::lol::lol::lol:

laepelba February 05, 2010 06:08 PM

Well then what do the O's mean?

AngelicaDeAlquezar February 05, 2010 10:42 PM

@Lou Ann: 0's mean that there is no combination of "g" with a vowel that will sound "fuerte". :)

irmamar February 06, 2010 12:12 AM

I've looked "erguir" up in the RAE and there are two ways to conjugate it. The second one sounds so weird to me! :thinking: (irgo, irgues/erguis, etc.) :confused:

I should study it, too. :D

laepelba February 06, 2010 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 71360)
The second column represents your soft sound of "G" :D

That it is a visual help more than anything, just keep looking at it until you understand it... :wicked::lol::lol::lol:

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 71362)
Well then what do the O's mean?

OH!! I got it. That was what confused me. So the inclusion of the "j's" is because the fuerte sound is similar to the fuerte g's?

chileno February 06, 2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 71379)
I've looked "erguir" up in the RAE and there are two ways to conjugate it. The second one sounds so weird to me! :thinking: (irgo, irgues/erguis, etc.) :confused:

I should study it, too. :D

I remember to have seen it while in school. But like I said, we use the "yergo" form.

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 71399)
OH!! I got it. That was what confused me. So the inclusion of the "j's" is because the fuerte sound is similar to the fuerte g's?

Right....

:)

I would have used 0, but I just thought of it. :)

laepelba February 06, 2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 71401)
I would have used 0, but I just thought of it. :)

Oooh! I love theta!! (0) See - you're becoming more mathematical!! :D


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