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Subordinated noun clauses with the subjunctive


laepelba April 16, 2011 06:09 AM

Subordinated noun clauses with the subjunctive
 
The exercise asked me to fill in the blanks using the proper form of the verbs in parentheses. I have included below the sentence that I didn't understand, along with my question.

Me alegro de que Uds. ________ a la fiesta hoy. (venir)
I wrote "vinieran", but the book gave "vengan" as the correct answer. Is my answer acceptable, too?

Rusty April 16, 2011 07:13 AM

Your answer is fine if you're reflecting on their showing up at the party that happened, or has already started. If the party hasn't started yet, vengan is the correct answer.

aleCcowaN April 16, 2011 07:20 AM

Yes, you're right, both are correct within their own contexts.

With "vinieran" the speaker implies the party has already ended. It could be possible to use "vinieran" during the party, but it's more precise using "hayan venido" because "venir" implies more "being there" than "coming". Of course, it's massively used "vinieran" instead of "hayan venido" though the party is still going, mainly in America, but in a context of formal teaching of languages it wouldn't be the first choice.

With "vengan" the speaker implies the party will start later probably in some other location. In such case, present is used to refer to scheduled activities in the future: they have already decided it and they're going to the party. The ending "hoy" suggest they are speaking of scheduled activities, so "vengan" seems to be the intended answer. With "maƱana" it had been less ambiguous.

As an additional note, speakers tend to use "de hoy", "de esta noche" or they insert a short pause between "fiesta" and "hoy" as if a comma was placed there -but shorter-.

laepelba April 16, 2011 07:47 AM

Thanks to both of you. :)


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