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Sortear con creces


poli May 11, 2011 02:34 PM

Sortear con creces
 
To win a bet?:thinking:

aleCcowaN May 11, 2011 02:41 PM

A hybrid between "sortear" and "superar con creces"? Context?

poli May 11, 2011 02:59 PM

Here's the sentence:
Cayetano supo entonces que había sorteado con creces el primer rito de iniciación de seminario que consistía en subir el baúl hasta el dormitorio sin preguntar nada y sin ayuda...

Maybe it mean passed the test.

aleCcowaN May 11, 2011 03:32 PM

It is pretty much futballspeak or sportspeak.

Sortear is to dodge, but also to overcome. Sortear las dificultades is to succeed in overcoming all of them.

Con creces means "in excess", "amply, fully". Superar con creces means "to far exceed" or "surpass".

In sports they often use sortear con creces to express that a team won a game and surpassed their rivals "with flying colours" so they are supposed to be in very good condition for their next match, so sortear con creces is like superar con creces but with the addition of "what's next?" or "that wasn't the last of it".

In these we-are-winners-you-know times, managers, products, bussiness teams, etc., everything that has to compete, be on trial or be examined, is proclaimed to sortear con creces any proof they have to face.

In fact Garcia Márquez' Of Love and Other Demons is the first literary work where I see this use. The few literary works using these expressions I could find are pretty recent and South American.

Luna Azul May 11, 2011 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poli (Post 110390)
Here's the sentence:
Cayetano supo entonces que había sorteado con creces el primer rito de iniciación de seminario que consistía en subir el baúl hasta el dormitorio sin preguntar nada y sin ayuda...

Maybe it mean passed the test.

He got around it with flying colors..

;)

AngelicaDeAlquezar May 11, 2011 08:52 PM

Just adding one more way to say it: "sortear/superar con creces" suggests that the person did more than he was expected to, and he made it easily. :)


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