Pronunciation

Pronunciation
 

Which regions pronounce the ll/y as a j sound (as in judge)? I hear it from a lot of people.

In my country some people pronoun the LL as Y although those words are almost the same in the pronoun of course, but whatever they are very different in the Spanish rules.


Sincerely yours.

You may find this thread useful. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye%C3%ADsmo
So it only becomes that at the beginning of a sentence or after n/m? I think I've heard some people pronounce it like that all the time.

¡Vaya! This takes me back more than thirty five years. I was holidaying in a hotel in Sitges with some other English lads and there was a group of very pretty young andaluzas staying there at the same time. One evening while sitting at the bar I started chatting to one these girls (I thought the prettiest of them all), when some of her friends came down and sat at a table, and I was invited to sit with them. I really thought I'd 'pulled'!

I sat down and some of my mates sat nearby, and the youngest started larking about and making everyone laugh. My new amiga said "Él es muy divertido, ¿no?", I replied "Sí, siempre hace de payaso", pronouncing the 'y' like an English 'y'.

One of her compañeras said "Se pronuncia paJaso", which I answered with "Oh, ok", but my new friend defended my pronunciation, and the two started arguing angrily. Soon all the Spanish girls were in two sides arguing furiously until one camp left, enraged. The others including my new 'conquest' retired to their rooms to dry their eyes.

The whole thing put an end to my new friendship and ruined what had promised to be a very pleasant evening!

Oh my. What a story. I'm sorry to hear that. :worried: You should have returned with her to comfort her.

I didn't see her again, I suppose her holiday finished that weekend - I had another week.

hihhiiiihi ayy, all the children that could have been born heheh :lol:
Noo, actually quite sad, why do people argue about things like that ??
Reminds me of a French teacher I had years ago who couldn't stop talking about how inferior Belgian French is. Well he didn't say "inferior", but nevertheless.. Now I got the same thing in latin :crazy:

Our language was greatly influenced by Spanish. Like it was derived from it.

If by "our language" you mean English, than not only is it not derived from Spanish (it's derived from a language known as Proto-Germanic that was spoken over a thousand years ago), it also has received little influence from Spanish. The vast majority of the words that look similar in English and Spanish are because English borrowed them from Norman French around 1066-1200 or so, as well as the words that English has borrowed directly from Classical Latin (the language of the Romans.) For instance -tion words are either from Norman French or from Latin: information which resembles Spanish información comes either from French or Latin. Spanish seemingly has a lot of words in common with English because Spanish is derived from Latin, as well as being closely related to French, and English borrowed heavily from both of those languages. Recently English has borrowed some words from Spanish such as sombrero, but relatively speaking it is a very small amount compared to the total vocabulary of English.

Synesther - I know I'm nosy, but what is Schörmn?

Well if you pronounce it like it's German, it sounds like Sherman, which is German if you can't say the "J" sound.

I believe Johndiv23 is referring to Tagalog.

Oh ok. Then yes, it has. Although I wish it had been influenced a lot more, because then it would be so much easier to learn for English and Spanish speakers. :p I can't read the Tagalog Wikipedia at all with my knowledge of English and Spanish. The only things I understand are the subject matter, but I can't understand much more than that.

Unless I'm mistaken (I usually am) isn't 'boondocks' just about the only word to pass from Tagalog to English?

Another candidate for the favourite word topic!

I was talking about the English and Spanish loanwords in Tagalog.
See this article on Wikipedia: http://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows
I can only understand the names of things. Here's what I can make out of the first two paragraphs:
Completely incomprehensible

Here's the Spanish version:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows

Ah, much better. :p Entorno was the only word I had to look up.