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Sentirse como el jamón del sándwich


aleCcowaN July 14, 2011 07:46 AM

Sentirse como el jamón del sándwich
 
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That's the idea. It doesn't refer to be in a crowded place but to manage some middle terrain in a debate and feeling suffocated in the little space left to compromise and agreement. Also feeling like a mediator that has to cope with angry parties.

Ways to say it in English? ¿Otras formas en castellano?

Thanks in advance

poli July 14, 2011 08:20 AM

to be between a rock and a hard place

to be caught between two warring factors

The idioms section of Tomisimo says entre la espada y la pared

similar to el jamón de sandwich, you can also say

I'm sandwiched between two people who want to kill each other

aleCcowaN July 14, 2011 08:42 AM

Thank you poli. But all those seem to mean "feeling trapped without an option", "being caught", entre la espada y la pared means that. With jamón del sándwich they are not allowing the room for you to do what you have to do, but you have the option to leave without feeling you lost anything, least that you have yielded. If you are a mediator and the mediation fails because the parties made the mediator sentirse como el jamón del sándwich, the parties would have their problem unsolved. There's no room there for poner the mediator entre la espada y la pared.

poli July 14, 2011 11:28 AM

Bueno, si no quiere sonar entrampado, puede decir I'm the buffer between
two fighting parties/warring factors, etc.

aleCcowaN July 14, 2011 11:46 AM

Thank you!

Rusty July 14, 2011 12:01 PM

'Stuck|caught in the middle' comes to mind. You may have to add 'between two opposing sides|people|arguments' to make your meaning clear.

aleCcowaN July 14, 2011 12:27 PM

Thank you, Rusty!

Eso me sugiere "quedar atrapado entre dos fuegos" y to be caught in the crossfire (though I had an idea of that being the same but in a position where it's difficult to remain neutral)

Rusty July 14, 2011 02:42 PM

'Caught in the crossfire' is good. It gives the idea that you're not defending either side (not helping any). You're just there, stuck in the middle, and there's not much you can do about the situation around you.
No one would miss you if you happened to sneak away. ;)

Awaken July 15, 2011 06:03 AM

"Caught in the crossfire" brings more symbolism to the phrase than just "caught in the middle." You can be "caught in the middle" of a bad situation. But "caught in the crossfire" seems to mean that each side is shooting/attacking at each other, even if it is just verbally.

aleCcowaN July 15, 2011 06:38 AM

Thank you, pals!

It goes that way; a context for "sentirse/ser (como) el jamón del sándwich" is when among family members or roommates there's a person who has good rapport with everybody but there are two who wouldn't get along and force the first person to mediate and press and entreat him to tip the scales in their favor by using their personal relation with this reluctant and victimized mediator.

poli July 15, 2011 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN (Post 113738)
Thank you, pals!

It goes this way; a context for "sentirse/ser (como) el jamón del sándwich" is when among family members or roommates there's a person who has good rapport with everybody but there are two who wouldn't get along and force the first person to mediate and press and entreat him to tip the scales in their favor by using their personal relation with this reluctant and victimized mediator.

There is no idiomatic expression in English for sentirse como el jamón de
sandwich. A common neutral term is to be the guy (or the one) in the middle.


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