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So many new words!!!


caliber1 August 04, 2011 10:07 PM

So many new words!!!
 
Estoy trabajando mucho con un amigo en el trabajo, y estoy aprendiendo muchas nuevas palabras de el.

Here is an example of a word and I was asking him how to say the different tenses for me, you, him, etc. . . It is a bit confusing. Are there any tips for learning the different tenses.

Colgar= to hang.

I then asked him if , "yo colgo el telefono" was correct. He told me I need to say "cuelgo" not "colgo". So that is my question. Are there any patterns that I can follow? Please let me know. Also please correct my first sentence if you see something wrong. Gracias a todos!

Rusty August 04, 2011 10:15 PM

There are many irregular verbs. There is no pattern. They all have to be learned as you go.
Colgar is classified as a stem-changing verb. The 'o' in the stem (colg-) changes to 'ue'. There are many verbs that change similarly (a few: poder, soñar). Verb conjugation charts are essential for Spanish students.
If you look at the conjugation chart here, you'll see all the conjugations for colgar.

caliber1 August 04, 2011 10:27 PM

Gracias Rusty! Yo lo aprecio. Tengo mucho mas a aprender pero yo creo que puedo.

Rusty August 04, 2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by caliber1 (Post 114998)
Gracias Rusty! (Yo) Te lo agradezco. Tengo mucho más que aprender pero yo creo que puedo.

¡No hay de qué! :)

caliber1 August 04, 2011 10:32 PM

agradecer. Another new word! And that gets conjugated like conocer. yo conozco. Thanks again.

Rusty August 04, 2011 10:44 PM

Here is another site that has verb conjugation charts. (I just noticed a couple of errors in the one I posted earlier. :()

caliber1 August 04, 2011 11:03 PM

I was feeling pretty good but now I'm feeling a little overwhelmed again my friend. That list seems to go on forever and thats just ONE verb!!!!

¡Me asustado!

Rusty August 04, 2011 11:14 PM

All verbs, except the defective ones, have that many conjugations. That's where the fun begins!

Me asusta. = It scares me.

wrholt August 05, 2011 01:03 AM

Yes, there are patterns for the conjugations: for each tense there is a specific way to find the stem for that tense and a specific set of endings for each combination of person and number.

The majority of the irregular verbs have one or more irregular stems that are used some of the time, but always with the regular endings.

A smaller number of irregular verbs also have irregular endings in some of the tenses; most of those verbs are used quite frequently.

A very small number of verbs are extremely irregular, but they are also among the most commonly used verbs, so it's well worth the effort to learn them.

Most good Spanish/Spanish and English/Spanish dictionaries have charts of model irregular verbs for each pattern of irregularity, and the dictionary entries for all irregular verbs will identify which model that verb follows. If the entry doesn't specify a model verb, then it is a regular verb, and you use the ending that correspond to the ending of the infinitive, which may be -ar, -er, or -ir.

AngelicaDeAlquezar August 05, 2011 08:19 AM

A good conjugation manual will help you learn to conjugate without memorizing each and every verb. Larousse has a nice one called Conjugación Lengua Española. It's made to show patterns so you'll learn to recognize different kinds of irregular verbs. :)

caliber1 August 05, 2011 11:45 AM

Thank you all! I want to be able to read the posts that are in Spanish and really be able to understand them. I think this will help. My two year old is beginning to speak more and more, and I'm beginning to understand how difficult it is to communicate when you don't know what to say:eek:

¡Gracias a todos!

Luna Azul August 05, 2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by caliber1 (Post 115038)
Thank you all! I want to be able to read the posts that are in Spanish and really be able to understand them. I think this will help. My two year old is beginning to speak more and more, and I'm beginning to understand how difficult it is to communicate when you don't know what to say:eek:

¡Gracias a todos!

Keep working hard and, one day, without even knowing it, you'll realize you understand more and more.

That's what's so beautiful about learning languages. You start from zero and there's one time when you'll be able to communicate, to understand and be understood. It's a great feeling!!!

Good luck!!:rose:

caliber1 August 05, 2011 10:13 PM

Awesome! Thanks amiga. It's cheap too!

funkcanna August 11, 2011 02:35 AM

My personal favourite conjugation website is

www.123teachme.com

It is a normal conjugation chart based site, however it gives you examples of each tense. I dont know about you, but I get confused with all the names of the tenses (Pluscuamperfecto, Presente perfecto etc)and this site shows brief examples of the usage of each tense.

Check it out, you will see what I mean!

caliber1 August 11, 2011 10:43 PM

Just tried it and it said file not found. :confused:

Rusty August 11, 2011 10:53 PM

Fixed the link. It just goes to the main page. Click on 'Spanish Verb Conjugation' to get to the page he mentioned.

caliber1 August 11, 2011 10:58 PM

Once again Rusty. Thanks for your help You're the man

OK so I looked at the site. That is a great site!!! I do have a pretty silly question. What is the difference between the "indicativo" and "subjuntivo" forms. I didn't see those forms in the English conjugations on the other website I looked at. My mother is an English teacher.

Ella me cuelga si supo que no conozco la gramatica :lol::lol::lol:

Rusty August 11, 2011 11:21 PM

The subjunctive is very much used in Spanish, but not so much in colloquial American English.

There are many threads that talk about when to use the subjunctive.

Your sentence should be:
Ella me guindaría|colgaría si supiera que no conozco la gramática.
(She would hang me if she found out that I don't know grammar.)

caliber1 August 11, 2011 11:29 PM

Close, but you gotta admit that was a little funny:applause::impatient:

Rusty August 11, 2011 11:35 PM

It's a good sentence to know. It may come in handy. :D


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