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Hellow (I can't find a more original title)


Don José August 28, 2011 05:43 AM

Hellow (I can't find a more original title)
 
Hellow,

I've already been reading these forums while looking for information (thanks to everybody), as I'm having an exam on English writing next week. I've spent a lot of time studying grammar books during this summer, and putting off writing. However, better late that never (mejor tarde que nunca, isn't it nice to find idioms that are so similar in both languages?:))

Although I was able to make myself understood when living in English speaking countries, I know I make a lot of mistakes, and would like to get rid of them.

By the way, corrections and suggestions will be very welcome indeed (don't ask me why, but I love this last word). I'll try to help as well.

Another "by the way": I'm rather impressed by the strong command of Spanish that some English native speakers show in these forums.

Perikles August 28, 2011 05:53 AM

Welcome from me. :) I can't find anything to correct in your post, so keep posting. :wicked:

Don José August 28, 2011 06:16 AM

Thanks for your evaluation. It makes me more confident for my exam.

wrholt August 28, 2011 08:00 AM

As Perikles said, you write quite well indeed. There is one teensy spelling issue: the standard spelling is "hello". (Ah, spelling, the bane of grade-school students and second-language learners everywhere!)

Welcome to the forums! And keep writing!

chileno August 28, 2011 08:43 AM

Hello José.


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Originally Posted by wrholt (Post 116378)
As Perikles said, you write quite well indeed. There is one teensy spelling issue: the standard spelling is "hello". (Ah, spelling, the bane of grade-school students and second-language learners everywhere!)

Welcome to the forums! And keep writing!

He did it on purpose.

wrholt August 28, 2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 116381)
Hello José.


Quote:

Originally Posted by wrholt (Post 116378)
As Perikles said, you write quite well indeed. There is one teensy spelling issue: the standard spelling is "hello". (Ah, spelling, the bane of grade-school students and second-language learners everywhere!)

Welcome to the forums! And keep writing!


He did it on purpose.

I was wondering. :D

Perikles August 28, 2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 116381)
He did it on purpose.

That's what I assumed. :lol::lol: I've just learned that hello is a quite recent adaption of hallo, which itself is a variation on hollo, or hollow, or holla, from French holá (with accent grave). Fascinating, or not. :)

wrholt August 28, 2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 116386)
That's what I assumed. :lol::lol: I've just learned that hello is a quite recent adaption of hallo, which itself is a variation on hollo, or hollow, or holla, from French holá (with accent grave). Fascinating, or not. :)

According to the etymological section of the entry for "hello" in my home dictionary, French "holà" itself comes from "ho" + "là" [there], and "là" from Latin "illac" = "that way".

Don José August 28, 2011 10:23 AM

I promise I didn't do it on purpose. I've been looking up in different dictionaries but no entries were found for 'hellow'.
I have no idea how I learn that bad spelling:thinking:

wrholt August 28, 2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Don José (Post 116389)
I promise I didn't do it on purpose. I've been looking up in different dictionaries but no entries were found for 'hellow'.
I have no idea how I learn that bad spelling:thinking:

I would suggest that you were led astray by the fact that we commonly pronounce "hello" with a strong glide to "oo", which we often spell using 'w' as in "owe". It's also the kind of sound-spelling error that we native speakers might make if we're not paying attention...

Perikles August 28, 2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wrholt (Post 116388)
According to the etymological section of the entry for "hello" in my home dictionary, French "holà" itself comes from "ho" + "là" [there], and "là" from Latin "illac" = "that way".

Now that's interesting. And how did you type your à ? :thinking:

chileno August 28, 2011 11:47 AM

Ha! It was a mistake, after all. :)

wrholt August 28, 2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 116400)
Now that's interesting. And how did you type your à ? :thinking:

With my keyboard, of course. :p

Seriously, though, I've configured my PC to be able to switch between the default English/US keyboard and to a Spanish/International keyboard that also supports other some other western-European languages. To type à, I make sure I have the current appropriate keyboard driver selected, then type ` (the key to the left of digit 1), which is a dead-key, then type a, and voilà, I have à. The same mechanism works with the keys for ', ", and ^, so I can get à, á, ä and â. Oh, and withi ~ I can also get to ã.

Perikles August 28, 2011 01:10 PM

I can get an á, but only a ºa (with left from 1 plus a :thinking:)with the Spanish keyboard. Ah well, I´ll just avoid French. That's easy.

wrholt August 28, 2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 116411)
I can get an á, but only a ºa (with left from 1 plus a :thinking:)with the Spanish keyboard. Ah well, I´ll just avoid French. That's easy.

Ah, but I'm not using the Spanish/Spanish keyboard. I have two settings:

1. English (United States)/US: that is, language & culture = English (United States), and keyboard choice = US.

2. Spanish (United States)/United States - International: that is, language & culture = Spanish (United States), and keyboard choice = United States -International.

It looks like your keyboard redefines the `/~ key (the one to the left of digit 1) with other characters. If you have a different key that normally presents `/~, then the unshifted character gives the grave accent.

Don José August 28, 2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wrholt (Post 116391)
I would suggest that you were led astray by the fact that we commonly pronounce "hello" with a strong glide to "oo", which we often spell using 'w' as in "owe". It's also the kind of sound-spelling error that we native speakers might make if we're not paying attention...

I have also though in that explanation. Shall we call it 'sound explanation'?

I have another hypothesis, a 'visual' one. 'Hellow' looks like 'yellow". Although I've read hundreds of times 'hello', my brain must have decided that it was a kind of informal word, like 'hi'.

wrholt August 28, 2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Don José (Post 116415)
I have also though in that explanation. Shall we call it 'sound explanation'?

I have another hypothesis, a 'visual' one. 'Hellow' looks like 'yellow". Although I've read hundreds of times 'hello', my brain must have decided that it was a kind of informal word, like 'hi'.

Yep, that sounds at least as plausible as my suggestion.

CrOtALiTo August 29, 2011 12:06 AM

I bid you welcome to these forums

I'm CrOtALiTo if you need to help with your practice, I will be willing to help you.

Sincerely yours.

Jessica August 29, 2011 06:39 PM

welcome to the forums!


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