¿Que piensan de esta frase?

¿Que piensan de esta frase?
 

¡Hola a todos! esta es la frase...



Mis dos hermanos luchaban libre en la salón cuando los dos idiotas cayeron en la árbol de navidad, fue Nochebuena.


¿Correcta?--> Eventos como esos que mi casa en Toledo es siempre interesante.



Es posible que mi padre muriera mis hermanos después yo salí Toledo.


muchísimas gracias,


~ Jonathan

Hints given where changes are needed.

Wow, esta frase necesitaba un poca ayuda.

El cuento es triste pero cierto...

¡Gracias Rusty!

No hay de qué.

By the way, I just noticed that you might have meant to say something a little different when you wrote your last sentence. Perhaps you meant 'after I left' instead of 'after I leave'. In either event, the subjunctive is needed in the clause that follows 'after'. And, if you did mean 'after I left', then the verb 'kill' must also be conjugated for the past tense (but still in the subjunctive mood).

Are you planning on posting a corrected version so we can have a look at your improvements?

Now that you mention it, this is what I came up with as far as corrections:

Mis dos hermanos luchaban libre en el salón cuando los dos idiotas cayeron en el árbol de navidad. Fue Nochebuena. Eventos como esos es la razón mi casa en Toledo es siempre interesante. Es posible que mi padre matara a mis hermanos después hube salido Toledo.


~ Jonathan

Some good corrections! :thumbsup:

I need the English version of that last sentence, please. I don't know what you're trying to say.

Just one more thing: "luchar libre" doesn't make much sense.
"Lucha libre", as the sport, does though.
So "mis hermanos hacían/practicaban lucha libre..." (or in a Mexican colloquial expression: "Mis hermanos jugaban a las luchas...") :)

Muchas gracias por la ayuda,


I made some more corrections based on your advice, I hope I am getting closer...



Mis dos hermanos practicaban lucha libre en el salón cuando los dos idiotas cayeron en el árbol de navidad. Fue Nochebuena. Mis experiencias en Toledo son siempre interesante, especialmente cuando se pone mis hermanos y mi podre en la misma salón; es posible que mi padre matara a mis hermanos después de salí Toledo.

the last sentence is supposed to sound something like, "It is possible that my father killed my brothers after I left Toledo". I have already left Toledo and speculating on the condition of my brothers.


Thanks a ton amigos!

More hints given.
I wouldn't have formed the last sentence the way you wrote it to begin with, so perhaps it still isn't right in Spanish. You're speculating on something that happened in the past, as opposed to a future event. Future speculation takes the subjunctive, but I'm not so sure it'll work backwards the same way. I did find an instance in a novel where that kind of structure was used, however, so perhaps it's correct the way I'm steering you. A native speaker may want to opine.

Here is just the problem sentence. I see what you mean, the sentence structure is a bit complicated and I may just remove it and put something else in it's place. But here goes,

Es posible que mi padre matara a mis hermanos después de que saliera de Toledo.


: )

Yes, that's the way I was thinking it might go, but I would say something different, like "Puede que mi padre los hubiera matado (a mis hermanos) después de irme de Toledo."

Rusty, thank you very much for all of your help!

At this point, I will go ahead and use what I have as I think it will be good enough for my first year Spanish class.

Thanks again!

~ Jonathan D.

¡No hay de qué!

Wow! A first-year Spanish class that teaches the subjunctive mood. Wonderful!

Oh yeah Profesora B. is killing us... ultimately though, she is a very good instructor.

For mere reasons of style I'd prefer "es posible que mi padre haya matado a mis hermanos después de que salí/me fui de Toledo".
"Matara" is not wrong, but to me, it leaves the possibility shorter than it "should" be after the incident. ;)
"Después de que saliera de Toledo" would be ambiguous, as it may mean "after my father left Toledo", so a pronoun is needed there: "después de que yo saliera de Toledo". Still, the sentence may sound too long, so "salí" may make it flow more easily. :)