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Reflexive "se" help!


MLC September 24, 2013 09:42 AM

Reflexive "se" help!
 
I'm having a bit of trouble with when to use "se" with comer. For example:
John eats the pen.

John se come la pluma....OR...John come la pluma.

If it is the second one, how is it distinguished from a command?

Thanks!

Perikles September 24, 2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MLC (Post 143479)
I'm having a bit of trouble with when to use "se" with comer. For example:
John eats the pen.

John se come la pluma....OR...John come la pluma.

If it is the second one, how is it distinguished from a command?

Thanks!

The difference between comer and comerse is really one of emphasis - comerse is more emphatic.

Examples:
No hay nada para comer - there's nothing to eat
Comemos a las nueve - we eat at nine
(emphasis) Se lo comió de un bocado - he gulped it down in one go

In your sentences, the second one is clearly not a command because you have John there as the subject.

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 24, 2013 06:33 PM

I agree with Perikles.

I would just add that a comma would make the difference with the imperative, if you use the conjugation corresponding to pronoun "tú" to address John.

· John, come la pluma. -> ("tú")


But if you use any other form of the imperative (the pronominal or the pronoun usted), then there would be no possibility of confusion:

· John, cómete la pluma. ("tú" + pronominal)
· John, coma la pluma. ("usted")
· John, cómase la pluma. ("usted" + pronominal)


For some explanations on the uses of "se", you can take a look here. :)

MLC September 24, 2013 06:35 PM

So, if it is a matter of emphasis, do you mean BOTH
Juan come la pluma, and
Juan se come la pluma
are correct ways of saying John eats the pen?

Rusty September 24, 2013 08:17 PM

comerse = eat (it) all up - gobble (something) down
comer = eat

Pluma, by the way, refers to a quill pen. And, why is John eating one?

MLC September 25, 2013 10:00 AM

John is probably a dog :))

Ok, so if I'm hearing you right then:

John eats the pen. = John come la pluma.
John eats(gobbles up) the pen. = John se come la pluma.


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