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Sentence Structure


Stu December 20, 2014 02:45 AM

Sentence Structure
 
What logic is used for sentence structure in Spanish. I find it hard to understand how sentences can begin with conjunctions like Y and sometimes no verb and sometimes contain a puzzling number of punctuation marks, as in this example.

Y en el Atlas satinado -de pie, medio cuerpo dentro del armario, escondida en su penumbra, oliendo la caoba y el almidón- podía ir respasando cautivadores países: las islas griegas a donde iba Jorge de Son Major, en su desaparecido Delfin, escapando, tal vez (¿por qué no como yo?), de los hombres y de las mujeres, del atroz mundo que tanto temía.

Why is Atlas capitalised?
When is a hyphen - used and when () ?

Julvenzor December 20, 2014 09:28 AM

It's a tricky text. We would need more context or an explanation about this subject. In any case, it is possible to start a sentence in Spanish with "y" and also with prepositional syntagmas: Spanish word order is freer than English.

We use the "raya" (—), not the hyphen (-), as if they were a parenthesis. The "raya" is also our way of beginning dialogues.

A pleasure.

Glen December 20, 2014 05:16 PM

The structure can be hard to get the hang of, Stu. I used to have trouble thinking of, for example "I will tell her (something)" as Se le digo, which is really "It to her I (will) tell."

That's why I recommend people wanting to learn pay close attention to the way non-native speakers form sentences, since in the beginning they often import their own structures into English, unwittingly demonstrating them to us. Very interesting!

Stu December 22, 2014 02:28 AM

Thank you - appreciated


Quote:

Originally Posted by Julvenzor (Post 152983)
It's a tricky text. We would need more context or an explanation about this subject. In any case, it is possible to start a sentence in Spanish with "y" and also with prepositional syntagmas: Spanish word order is freer than English.

We use the "raya" (—), not the hyphen (-), as if they were a parenthesis. The "raya" is also our way of beginning dialogues.

A pleasure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen (Post 152984)
The structure can be hard to get the hang of, Stu. I used to have trouble thinking of, for example "I will tell her (something)" as Se le digo, which is really "It to her I (will) tell."

That's why I recommend people wanting to learn pay close attention to the way non-native speakers form sentences, since in the beginning they often import their own structures into English, unwittingly demonstrating them to us. Very interesting!

Thanks Glen,

Yes I know I should not try to mentally convert it to English, but you have to start with what you know and learn the differences. I had some issues with a sentence that translates something like "She damaged us the car" when there was nobody in the car at the time she damaged it.


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