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"hacia Sevilla" o "a Sevilla"


BobRitter March 24, 2016 07:48 AM

"hacia Sevilla" o "a Sevilla"
 
El tren hacia Sevilla está en la segunda plataforma.
El tren a Sevilla está en la segunda plataforma.

Ambos traducen a "to Sevilla". Cual es preferido

poli March 24, 2016 06:05 PM

Hacia Sevilla means towards Seville or in the direction of Seville.
A Sevilla means to Seville. Obviously the meanings are similar, and their use may be interchangable, but perhaps hacia implies local stops along the way.

aleCcowaN March 24, 2016 07:27 PM

el tren a Sevilla (Seville is its destination, or at least it has a stop there)
el tren hacia Sevilla (in the direction of Seville. I don't know any use of this in the real world. It sounds more like a very informal way to ask about the right platform)

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 24, 2016 09:38 PM

@Bob: "Hacia" is not exactly the destination, but it rather implies the idea of moving from one place to another, also the way to the destination.

As Alec said, it's hard to hear "el tren hacia Sevilla"; you will rather hear things like:

- El tren que parte hacia Sevilla está en...
- El tren que va hacia Sevilla está en...
- El tren que sale hacia Sevilla está en...
...


And (at least in Mexico) you will hear as often as "a Sevilla", "para Sevilla". :)

BobRitter March 25, 2016 09:25 AM

The "hacia Sevilla" was from:
LearnWithOliver. com <support.spanish@learnwitholiver.com>
Sentence of the Day (Intermediate):
El tren hacia Sevilla está en la segunda plataforma.
The train to Seville is at the second platform.

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 25, 2016 11:42 AM

It still sounds strange to me, but it may very well be a regional preference. :)

poli March 25, 2016 12:10 PM

it's around. I checked the internet and lots of hacia comes up. Here's an example:
http://www.howtotraveltomachupicchu.com/node/41

A Sevilla use is clearly the better one. I think the meaning is close. Perhaps you can compare it to: trains to Chicago and Chicago bound trains.

aleCcowaN March 26, 2016 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobRitter (Post 159057)
El tren hacia Sevilla está en la segunda plataforma.

Here, the use of "plataforma", ordinals and "hacia" gives away a completely foreign origin -and not much skilled source-.

"El tren a Sevilla parte del andén número dos" -at a terminal-

or

"El tren para Sevilla para en el andén número dos" -in intermediate stations-.

These are "da ways".

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plataforma ---> a stage, open air, on a flat plot
plataforma ---> platform shoes
plataforma ---> space without seats in passenger cars, buses and streetcars (generally accesses)
plataforma ---> flat wagon (flatcar)
plataforma ---> flat surface built in a construction site to facilitate work (specific type of scaffold)
plataforma ---> political program (figurative use of the previous meaning)
plataforma ---> akin to operative system in computing
plataforma ---> In half the American continent, at a BUS terminal, the space where passengers await, get on or off the bus, and in many cases they handle or get back their baggages to be transported in the luggage or cargo compartment. This use may make some uneducated native speakers who are not familiar with trains to call "plataforma" what is only correctly named "andenes", and the distracted ones to tolerate its use.

andén ---> platform (in a rail station)

JPablo April 10, 2016 10:00 PM

In train stations in Spain the PA may say, "Tren con destino [a] Sevilla, con salida a las 16:30 se encuentra en la vía 3, andén 4..." (with the "a", deleted in many times...)

And don't forget, "La lluvia en Sevilla es una maravilla". ;)


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