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Attempting negation


cmon November 04, 2008 10:14 AM

Attempting negation
 
I never want to see him.
Nunca lo quiero ver.

I never want to see him ever.
No lo quiero ver nunca.

She never says hello.
Ella nunca dice hola/Nunca ella dice hola.

Don't you ever sleep?
Nunca duermes tú?

No one likes us.
Nadie nos gusta.

No one ever likes us.
No nos gusta a nadie nunca

You are never nice to anyone.
Nunca le eres agradable a nadie

No one is going home.
Nadie va a casa.

No girl is leaving now.
Ninguna chica está saliendo ahora.

Nothing bothers me.
No me molesto nada/Nada me molesto.

I don't have any books.
No tengo ningunos libros.

No man is happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz.

No man is ever happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz nunca.





Rusty November 04, 2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmon (Post 18804)
I never want to see him.
Nunca lo quiero ver. :good:
I never want to see him ever. (I don't want to see him ever (again).)
No lo quiero ver nunca. :good: (If the word nunca follows the verb, the word no must precede it.)
She never says hello.
Ella nunca dice hola/Nunca dice hola ella. :good:
Don't you ever sleep?
Nunca duermes tú? :good:
No one likes us.
Nadie nos gusta. :bad: (Le gustamos a nadie. :good:)
No one ever likes us.
No nos gusta a nadie nunca :bad: (No le gustamos nunca a nadie. :good:)
You are never nice to anyone.
Nunca le eres agradable a nadie :bad: (Nunca eres amable con nadie. :good:)
No one is going home.
Nadie va a casa. :good:
No girl is leaving now.
Ninguna chica está saliendo ahora. :good:
Nothing bothers me.
Nada me molesta. = No me molesta nada.
I don't have any books.
No tengo ningunos libros. :bad: (No tengo ningún libro.)
No man is happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz. :good:
No man is ever happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz nunca. No me suena bien. A ver qué dicen los hispanohablantes.


Mi aportación. :twocents:

Tomisimo November 04, 2008 02:28 PM

What Rusty says is right. Nadie nos gusta actually means "We don't like anyone".

cmon November 04, 2008 04:38 PM

got it
 
Le gustamos a nadie (We are not pleasing to anyone.)
And plural forms of ningún are used only with nouns that always appear in the plural (scissors-tijeras)

Thanks much!

Tomisimo November 04, 2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmon (Post 18835)
Le gustamos a nadie (We are not pleasing to anyone.)
And plural forms of ningún are used only with nouns that always appear in the plural (scissors-tijeras)

Thanks much!

You've got it- just one missing word:

No le gustamos a nadie = No one likes us (We are not pleasing to anyone)

sosia November 05, 2008 12:58 AM

I cna't quote a quote!!! Disgusting......
I never want to see him.
Nunca lo quiero ver. :good:
No lo quiero ver nunca. No lo quiero volver a ver nunca.
I never want to see him ever. (I don't want to see him ever (again).)
No lo quiero ver nunca. :good: (If the word nunca follows the verb, the word no must precede it.)
same as above. We spaniards are very excessive, so when we say never it's the same as never ever again :D
She never says hello.
Ella nunca dice hola :good: /Nunca dice hola ella. Sounds odd :thinking:
Ella nunca saluda (She never greets)
Don't you ever sleep?
Nunca duermes tú? :good:
Nunca duermes? No duermes nunca?
No one likes us.
Nadie nos gusta. :bad: (Nadie nos gusta: We don't like anybody)
(Le gustamos a nadie. needs a "No" )
No le gustamos a nadie. Nadie nos quiere (Nobodyloves us)
No one ever likes us.
No nos gusta a nadie nunca:bad:
(No le gustamos nunca a nadie.:good: )
Nadie nos quiere
You are never nice to anyone.
Nunca le eres agradable a nadie :bad: (Nunca eres amable con nadie.:good: )
No one is going home.
Nadie va a casa.:good:
Nadie viene a casa. It's more personal, more suffering.
No girl is leaving now.
Ninguna chica está saliendo ahora. :good:
Nothing bothers me.
Nada me molesta. = No me molesta nada.:good:
I don't have any books.
No tengo ningunos libros:bad:. (No tengo ningún libro.:good:)
No tengo libros.
No man is happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz. :good:
Nadie es feliz
No man is ever happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz nunca. No me suena bien. A ver qué dicen los hispanohablantes. sound odd -->Nadie es siempre feliz. Nadie es feliz por siempre

Saludos :D

Planet hopper November 05, 2008 02:07 AM

Right, my two pennies
I think the first two would end up being the same sentence

No quiero ni verla (por siempre jamás)
Ni se me ocurre verla.

She never says hello
Ella no dice ni hola
Ésta ni saluda.

Don't you ever sleep?
¿Tu es que no duermes?

No one likes us
Definitely, nadie nos quiere.

You are never nice to anyone.
A ti ni se te ocurre tener modales con nadie.

Nobody is going home
Aqui todos quietos que no se va ni dios (sorry for the profanity if any)

Nobody comes home
A esta casa no vienen ni las águilas (colourful, I know, but fun)

No girl is leaving now.
Que no se vaya ninguna de las niñas

Nothing bothers me
A mi me importa todo un pimiento.

I don't have any books
No tengo libros
No tengo ni un libro (en casa/a mano)

No man is happy
Nadie es feliz, agree with sosia

No man is ever happy
Yep, that sounds odd, Sosia
Nadie es feliz por siempre jamás.

Elaina November 05, 2008 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmon (Post 18804)
I never want to see him.
Nunca lo quiero ver.

I never want to see him ever.
No lo quiero ver nunca.

She never says hello.
Ella nunca dice hola/Nunca ella dice hola.

Don't you ever sleep?
Nunca duermes tú?

No one likes us.
Nadie nos gusta.

No one ever likes us.
No nos gusta a nadie nunca

You are never nice to anyone.
Nunca le eres agradable a nadie

No one is going home.
Nadie va a casa.

No girl is leaving now.
Ninguna chica está saliendo ahora.

Nothing bothers me.
No me molesto nada/Nada me molesto.

I don't have any books.
No tengo ningunos libros.

No man is happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz.

No man is ever happy.
Ningún hombre es feliz nunca.




I never want to see him = No quiero volver a verlo.

I never want to see him ever. = Jamás quiero volver a verlo.

She never says hello. = Ella nunca saluda (Ella nunca dice hola).

Don't you ever sleep? = ¿Duermes alguna vez?

No one likes us. = No le caemos bien a nadie.

No one ever likes us. = Nunca le caemos bien a nadie.

You are never nice to anyone. = Tu/Ud. nunca se comporta (porta) bien con nadie.

No one is going home. = Nadie se va ir a casa.

No girl is leaving now. = Ninguna muchacha/niña se va ahora. (???)

Nothing bothers me. = Nada me molesta.

I don't have any books. = No tengo ningún libro.

No man is happy. = Nadie es felíz.

No man is ever happy. = Nunca nadie es felíz.

I know that some are repetitions but others aren't.


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