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De and del


Zach May 06, 2006 06:58 PM

De and del
 
Another question if you don't mind :)

When is it appropriate to use "de" and when is it appropriate to use "del"?

Tomisimo May 07, 2006 07:32 AM

Re: De and del
 
Not a problem, it's an easy answer :)

"de" would be used alone to mean "of" or "from"

Whenever you need to say "from the ..." or "of the..."

You would then use "de" and the proper "the" word.

de la
de el
de las
de los

The only catch is one the the above is wrong. Whenever you want to say "de el" you have to make a contraction and you use "del". That's all there is to it. And there's only one exception it's when "el" is part of a proper noun (a name for instance), then you don't do the contraction. For example "El Salvador" "He is from El Salvador" "El es de El Salvador" ... not del Salvador.. :)


Nix May 10, 2006 03:44 AM

Re: De and del
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomisimo
Not a problem, it's an easy answer :)

"de" would be used alone to mean "of" or "from"

Whenever you need to say "from the ..." or "of the..."

You would then use "de" and the proper "the" word.

de la
de el
de las
de los

The only catch is one the the above is wrong. Whenever you want to say "de el" you have to make a contraction and you use "del". That's all there is to it. And there's only one exception it's when "el" is part of a proper noun (a name for instance), then you don't do the contraction. For example "El Salvador" "He is from El Salvador" "El es de El Salvador" ... not del Salvador.. :)


How can I know when it's a proper noun?

shruti May 11, 2006 02:44 PM

Re: De and del
 
Do you know what proper nouns are in English? Same thing. Specific names of people or places, generally.

Also, adding on to what Tomisimo said, "de él" does not become "del" either.

Tomisimo May 11, 2006 07:32 PM

Re: De and del
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shruti
Also, adding on to what Tomisimo said, "de él" does not become "del" either.

Thanks, that had slipped by me :) And since I always like giving examples:

Es de él - It's his.

Nix May 13, 2006 05:36 AM

Re: De and del
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shruti
Do you know what proper nouns are in English? Same thing. Specific names of people or places, generally.

Also, adding on to what Tomisimo said, "de él" does not become "del" either.

Thanks shruti. I just wasn't sure :-[


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