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Using "hubiera" for "should"


tacuba January 07, 2009 08:10 PM

Using "hubiera" for "should"
 
Hi everyone:

I keep hearing (here in Mexico) "hubiera" used in the sense of "should" in English. At least that's how it sounds in context.

Hubiera estudiado más
I should have studied more

Am I hearing this correctly? Or am I going down the wrong track?

Thanks

Rusty January 07, 2009 08:11 PM

That's correct usage and your interpretation is right. The subjunctive mood is being employed. It's an unspoken wish, and wishes are cast in the subjunctive.

Jessica January 07, 2009 08:20 PM

oh so in other places should is debo or something??

Rusty January 07, 2009 08:22 PM

No, that usage is correct for all of the Spanish-speaking world.

Jessica January 07, 2009 08:27 PM

oh ok so is huberia another way to say should and it's more common in Mexico?

Tomisimo January 07, 2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacuba (Post 23367)
Hi everyone:

I keep hearing (here in Mexico) "hubiera" used in the sense of "should" in English. At least that's how it sounds in context.

Hubiera estudiado más
I should have studied more

Am I hearing this correctly? Or am I going down the wrong track?

Thanks

That's right. "Hubiera" can basically mean three things-- "should have", "would have", or "had".

Hubiera traído mi cámara para sacar fotos.
I should have brought my camera to take pictures.

Si hubiera sabido que iba a hacer frío, me hubiera traído mi chamarra.
If I had known that it was going to be cold, I would have brought my jacket.


The usage of "hubiera" as "would have" is considered by some to be non-standard, but in many dialects of Spanish it is **extremely** common even with well-educated speakers speaking in the higher registers (formal settings, etc). "Standard" usage would have you use "habría" in this case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchen (Post 23373)
oh so in other places should is debo or something??

Not exactly. "debo" means "I should", not "I should have".

tacuba January 07, 2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 23368)
That's correct usage and your interpretation is right. The subjunctive mood is being employed. It's an unspoken wish, and wishes are cast in the subjunctive.

Thanks Rusty and David:

So a literal translation could be something like: "That I had studied more." or "That I would have studied more".

Jessica January 07, 2009 08:31 PM

oh ok I could see the difference

Rusty January 07, 2009 08:36 PM

The usage above is correct everywhere and is used everywhere. It doesn't replace the word(s) you already know for 'should'. What you know is also used everywhere. The difference is how and when each is used. You'll learn about this usage when you are studying the subjunctive mood.


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