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Haber de ser


workingmom20 April 20, 2009 08:57 AM

Haber de ser
 
I get confused with this saying, doesnt this meen , is to be ?
Like you can say has de ser, ha de ser,
Can someone break it down for me please?

CrOtALiTo April 20, 2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by workingmom20 (Post 32249)
I get confused with this saying, doesnt this meen , is to be ?

I feel that exist a wrong in the sence of the word, I think that the word should to be Debe de ser...


I hope this help you.

workingmom20 April 20, 2009 09:05 AM

No, I have seen this a few times before and I even learned a little bit on it but I can't really remember, does anybody know about this grammar?

irmamar April 20, 2009 09:26 AM

Esto es una perífrasis verbal. Hay varios tipos de perífrasis verbales y tienen características concretas. En este caso es una perífrasis verbal de obligación. Las perífrasis verbales de obligación son las siguientes:

Deber + infinitivo: debes llegar pronto
Tener que + inf.: tienes que llegar pronto
Haber que + inf. : hay que llegar pronto
Haber de + inf.: has de llegar pronto, has de ser más bueno.

Haber + ser no se suele usar mucho en España, aunque es perfectamente correcto, se suele usar más Tener que + ser: Tienes que ser más bueno,

workingmom20 April 20, 2009 09:46 AM

Entonces tener que ser es igualito a haber de ser

chileno April 20, 2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by workingmom20 (Post 32261)
Entonces tener que ser es igualito a haber de ser

Así es. :-)

CrOtALiTo April 21, 2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 32256)
Esto es una perífrasis verbal. Hay varios tipos de perífrasis verbales y tienen características concretas. En este caso es una perífrasis verbal de obligación. Las perífrasis verbales de obligación son las siguientes:

Deber + infinitivo: debes llegar pronto
Tener que + inf.: tienes que llegar pronto
Haber que + inf. : hay que llegar pronto
Haber de + inf.: has de llegar pronto, has de ser más bueno.

Haber + ser no se suele usar mucho en España, aunque es perfectamente correcto, se suele usar más Tener que + ser: Tienes que ser más bueno,

Your help is very useful with the people.

Congratulation.

I could to understand you very well.:)

irmamar April 22, 2009 12:27 AM

I like to be useful and I think we are here for helping each other (now that I've written this I question myself: is this the same in plural?, I mean: "los unos a los otros" means "each other").

I think you said me that you understood me because what I told you the other day :), but surely you'll understand me less when I write in English...:D

irmamar April 22, 2009 12:28 AM

sorry! said to me or told me.

chileno April 22, 2009 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 32447)
I like to be useful and I think we are here for helping each other (now that I've written this I question myself: is this the same in plural?, I mean: "los unos a los otros" means "each other").

Yes. :)

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 32447)
I think you said me that you understood me because what I told you the other day :), but surely you'll understand me less when I write in English...:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 32448)
sorry! said to me or told me.

Either one. :)

Estoy un poco escueto hoy, ¿no? :)


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