Spanish language learning forums

Spanish language learning forums (https://forums.tomisimo.org/index.php)
-   Idioms & Sayings (https://forums.tomisimo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30)
-   -   No la hagas y no la temas (https://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=5237)

No la hagas y no la temas


ROBINDESBOIS September 03, 2009 02:43 AM

No la hagas y no la temas
 
English ?

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 03, 2009 09:55 AM

Around here is "el que nada debe, nada teme".

ROBINDESBOIS September 07, 2009 03:22 AM

IN English?

pjt33 September 07, 2009 04:26 AM

No entiendo qué quiere decir. ¿Son dos imperativos? Pero no veo la coherencia: ¿si no lo* temo, porque no debo hacerlo*?

La versión de Angélica sí tiene sentido. No conozco ningún dicho parecido, pero si tu frase tiene un sentido parecido se puede traducir "If you take no risks, you'll have nothing to fear."


* ¿Por qué "no la hagas"? ¿Qué es el sustantivo femenino escondido tras el pronombre?

bobjenkins September 07, 2009 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 50006)
No entiendo qué quiere decir. ¿Son dos imperativos? Pero no veo la coherencia: ¿si no lo* temo, porque no debo hacerlo*?

La versión de Angélica sí tiene sentido. No conozco ningún dicho parecido, pero si tu frase tiene un sentido parecido se puede traducir "If you take no risks, you'll have nothing to fear."


* ¿Por qué "no la hagas"? ¿Qué es el sustantivo femenino escondido tras el pronombre?

También me pregunto porque usas LA:thinking:

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 07, 2009 09:58 AM

Literally, Robin's version would be "don't do it (the bad thing) and don't fear it", which would mean that if you do something bad, you'll have to fear the consequences.

There is also a related saying "El que la hace, la paga" (If you do something wrong, you'll pay for it). Maybe you're right about feeling "lo" would be more appropriate, but these are idioms and "la" is the usual article for them. :)


@Robin: if you want satisfying replies to your topics, please explain them and write examples for them, so people interested in finding your equivalents will understand them completely. :)

ROBINDESBOIS September 07, 2009 10:05 AM

OK, No la hagas y no la temas, sería algo así como, no hagas algo malo, así no te pillarán o cogerán. Es decir que si haces algo malo, fuera de la norma, es posible que te pillen, y tengas que afrontar la situación.

Rusty September 07, 2009 10:23 AM

One thing that comes to mind is "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

pjt33 September 07, 2009 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 50051)
Literally, Robin's version would be "don't do it (the bad thing) and don't fear it", which would mean that if you do something bad, you'll have to fear the consequences.

I managed the literal translation myself. My problem in understanding it is that two imperatives are logically separate: I don't expect a semantic difference between "No la hagas y no la temas" and "No la temas y no la hagas". Moreover, it's hard to construe the double pronoun (in the same gender and number) without any referent as anything other than two references to the same unknown noun. "No lo/la hagas y no tendrás qué temer" sí me parece coherente: el cambio al futuro indica que es consecuencia del imperativo.

Rusty, tiene algunas similaridades, pero me parece semánticamente muy distinta. "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" es lo que dicen las autoridades al quitarte la intimidad.

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 07, 2009 03:48 PM

Sometimes idioms and sayings stretch a little some rules to have rhythm or rhymes. This "no la temas" is not the same kind of imperative of "no la hagas", but only keeps the structure of the first sentence.

Anyway, there isn't always a related equivalent in both languages for every colloquial expression, so many of these can be simply expressed by using an English explanation for them. :)

How about "if you do the crime, you do the time"?

pjt33 September 07, 2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 50129)
How about "if you do the crime, you do the time"?

:good::thumbsup:


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:48 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.