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How to pronounce veinte

How to pronounce veinte

Hi Guys,

Is the correct sound like "bein" + "te" or "bei" + "n" + "te" or even "be' +"in" + "te"?

I check some online pronunciation of it, some said bein + te or say bei in te, so I would like to know the correct one if possible someone guide mine too!

Thanks in advance.

i and u are "weak" vowels which form diphthongs. "ei" is thus one sound, not two.

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then so if ei is combination of one sound then it will be "bei" + n + "te". So we pronounce the n in veinte too? is it a combination "in" or just "n" itself?

Thanks!

Quizás puedo ayudarte,

Vein - te
Bein - te

Es parecido a la palabra inglés Vein (the blood vein)

Hay dos silabas:)

ve-in-te (the stress falls on the dipthong)
some people even say vente.

Un diptongo forma una sílaba y consta de una vocal fuerte (a, e, o) y una débil (i, u) no acentuada (la h intercalada no impide el diptongo: prohi-bir). En el caso de veinte, la pronunciación será:

bein-te

Una consonante no puede formar una sílaba, por lo que nunca será bei-n-te.

Un hiato consta de dos vocales fuertes o una fuerte con una débil acentuada (tampoco influye la h intercalada). No forman sílaba:

ja-le-o
Ma-rí-a
ba-hí-a

I hope it helps.

:)

Im sorry! but my spanish is weak, I don't really understand it very well...

I believe it's not e english vein, just by changing the v to B sound.

But I'm kinda of confuse I know if it's vowel behind, the stress fall before the sound of the vowel combination so it's veINte.

We know english we sometimes we use one letter in the middle to combine the sound infront and behind e letter to make some sound but does it apply to spanish too?

From the above, so it's not possible in this case, right? So it would be "be" "IN" "te" instead of bei in te?

please pardon me for all the questions. I'm really confused :s

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 64050)

i and u are "weak" vowels which form diphthongs. "ei" is thus one sound, not two.

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Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 64058)

ve-in-te (the stress falls on the dipthong)
some people even say vente.

So which one is correct ?

Please, forgive me. I thought you understood me :o

When we join a strong vowel (a, o, u) with a weak vowel (i, u) we form a diphthong. A diphthong is only one syllable. However, as there is a strong vowel (it doesn't matter its position), this one would receive the stress:

béin-te
tién-da

But you can't say bé-in-te or ti-én-da.

It's the same in English with the word "time", the "i" forms a diphthong (aI) and you can't say "ta-im", but "taim".

If the soft vowel has an accent or the two vowels are strong, it forms an hiatus, and you can form another syllable:

Ma-rí-a
de-se-o

I hope it's clearer now :thinking: ;)

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 64068)

When we join a strong vowel (a, o, u) with a weak vowel (i, u) we form a diphthong. A diphthong is only one syllable. However, as there is a strong vowel (it doesn't matter its position), this one would receive the stress:

béin-te
tién-da

1)Do you mean (a, o, e ) are strong vowels and the weak vowels (i, u)?

2) accent over the vowel is it like some funny symbol over the letter? But do they still consider vowel or any of properties has changed etc? I know the pronunciation change slightly.

3a)When we join a strong vowel (a, o, u) with a weak vowel (i, u) we form a diphthong. A diphthong is only one syllable. However, as there is a strong vowel (it doesn't matter its position), this one would receive the stress:

3b)If the soft vowel has an accent or the two vowels are strong, it forms an hiatus, and you can form another syllable:

Thanks for explaining to me but my phonics and english foundation is weak, I can speak well but when come to such technical stuff & sounds, grammar I'm really scare & confuse easily. Could you explain a little be more? I don't really get it.

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Originally Posted by chewy (Post 64074)

1)Do you mean (a, o, e ) are strong vowels and the weak vowels (i, u)?

Yes :)

2) accent over the vowel is it like some funny symbol over the letter? But do they still consider vowel or any of properties has changed etc? I know the pronunciation change slightly.

Funny symbol? :thinking:

Stress is not the same that accent. A syllable can be stressed but not with an accent (tilde). You stress a syllable in a word, both in English and in Spanish:

se-pa-ra-te
se-pa-rar

twen-ty
vein-te

3a)When we join a strong vowel (a, o, u) with a weak vowel (i, u) we form a diphthong. A diphthong is only one syllable. However, as there is a strong vowel (it doesn't matter its position), this one would receive the stress:

3b)If the soft vowel has an accent or the two vowels are strong, it forms an hiatus, and you can form another syllable:

Thanks for explaining to me but my phonics and english foundation is weak, I can speak well but when come to such technical stuff & sounds, grammar I'm really scare & confuse easily. Could you explain a little be more? I don't really get it.

Imagine you have five colours: three dark (a, e, o - black, brown, blue) and two light (i, u - white, yellow).

If you mix a dark colour with another one light, you'll be able to mix them and you'll get a colour (a diphthong): black + white = grey; a + i = ai (a diphthong > only one syllable).

If you mix two dark colours you won't get a real colour, but a strange mix (well, it's not true, but imagine, please ;)). So you get an hiatus, because they don't mix well: black + brown = black + brown; a + o = a-o, two syllables.

If you add a small amount of black colour to the light ones, it's like (imagine) you're adding an accent to these colours (weak vowels). So, the weak vowels with the accent (tilde) are now strong vowels, and they can't mix in only one syllable: a + í = a-í, two syllables again.

I hope you're not more confused now :thinking: :D

Here's an MP3. (This is me, a non-native speaker, but it's pretty close)

I also found this website that has pronunciations of many different Spanish words: http://www.forvo.com/word/veinte/

Thanks guys! I will read irmamar's dark & light colour then I will ask more questions! sorry I was quite busy, I didn't have time to read and understand the part. thanks again! :D

Never is later for the learn something else.

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Originally Posted by chewy (Post 66369)

Thanks guys! I will read irmamar's dark & light colour then I will ask more questions! sorry I was quite busy, I didn't have time to read and understand the part. thanks again! :D

Well, I tried to help you, but maybe this is more confusing. :thinking: :D

Aside from all the gramatical explanation of diphthongs and vowels and stuff.........I pronounce the "veinte" like this....

véin (like a vein where blood flows and the accent is just for stress purposes) + te (short e sound like the "te" from telephone or television)

the more you pronounce it and practice it the better the pronunciation becomes.

Good luck!

Elaina - isn't the "-te" at the end of veinte more like a "-tay" sound with a long English "a" than a "te-" from telephone? Or is it regional?

@Lou Ann: Elaina's approximation is correct. Listen to David's recording. :)

I did - I thought that's what I was hearing. I was always told that "e" in Spanish is ALWAYS pronounced the same way, no matter where it is in a word. :(

so the "te' should be pronounce as "tay" or telephone "te"? but the te in telephone is it in spanish or english pronunciation?

I heard Tomisimo saying as "bein" + "tay", am I right?