LES or LAS

hola	January 11, 2010 10:12 AM

LES or LAS

when talking about girls/women do you use the pronoun LAS or LES? i ask because i have seen AND heard both used

are these people making mistakes???

is it possible that ALL of them r making mistakes???

pjt33

January 11, 2010 11:42 AM

It depends.

According to the RAE "las" is a direct object pronoun and "les" is an indirect object pronoun. Thus "I tell them (the girls) that I can see them" is "Les digo que puedo verlas".

However, there are non-standard dialects which modify these rules: laísmo and leísmo. Laísmo is using la/las as indirect object pronouns, and is supposed to be common in e.g. Madrid; leísmo is using le/les as direct object pronouns when referring to people, and is rarer.

AngelicaDeAlquezar

January 11, 2010 12:43 PM

Both can be used, depending on the context and whether it is an indirect or direct object.

-- ¿Sabes algo de María y Ana? No las he visto desde hace mucho. (Have you heard anything from María and Ana? I haven't seen them for a long time.)
-- Voy a verlas mañana. ¿Quieres que les dé algún mensaje?. (I will see them tomorrow. Do you want me to give them a message?.)
-- Sí. ¿Podrías decirles que las quiero invitar a mi fiesta? (Yes. Could you tell them I want to invite them to my party?)

chileno

January 11, 2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 68298)

Both can be used, depending on the context and whether it is an indirect or direct object.

-- ¿Sabes algo de María y Ana? No las (les)he visto desde hace mucho. (Have you heard anything from María and Ana? I haven't seen them for a long time.)
-- Voy a verlas mañana. ¿Quieres que les dé algún mensaje?. (I will see them tomorrow. Do you want me to give them a message?.)
-- Sí. ¿Podrías decirles que las (les) quiero invitar a mi fiesta? (Yes. Could you tell them I want to invite them to my party?)

In case someone is wondering what's called leísmo or loísmo laísmo, the one in red are it.

Perikles

January 12, 2010 01:56 AM

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chileno

January 12, 2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 68325)

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No, please I am waiting. :)

Perikles

January 12, 2010 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 68317)

the one in red are it.

I was just being silly. I was going to ask whether you is sure. :D

chileno

January 12, 2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 68336)

I was just being silly. I was going to ask whether you is sure. :D

I am fairly sure, else everything would be le/lo/la/ísmo.

I might be wrong too. :)

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