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Indicativo o del subjuntivo!!!


deborahj January 30, 2010 08:45 AM

Indicativo o del subjuntivo!!!
 
I would be very grateful if someone could tell me which is the correct form of the word in brackets, indicativo or subjuntivo and why. Thankyou.


No tengo mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder)....................., me gusta hacer un poco de deporte.

Ya se que no tienes mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).....................,
ven a mi casa y tomaremos algo.

:confused:

Thanks
Debbie

Perikles January 30, 2010 09:13 AM

I'll have a go, but wait for a Spanish speaker to correct me: :rolleyes:

No tengo mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder)......puedo..............., me gusta hacer un poco de deporte.

This is a statement of fact, without any supposition, so there is no reason to use a subjunctive


Ya se que no tienes mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).......puedas..............,
ven a mi casa y tomaremos algo.

Here, it is a supposition, because it is uncertain that it is possible, (like ... if you were able to ...) so you use a subjunctive. :)

irmamar January 30, 2010 10:16 AM

:applause: Perikles is right. :)

bobjenkins January 30, 2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by deborahj (Post 70500)
I would be very grateful if someone could tell me which is the correct form of the word in brackets, indicativo or subjuntivo and why. Thankyou.


No tengo mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).indicativo., me gusta hacer un poco de deporte.

Ya se que no tienes mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).subjuntivo..,
ven
a mi casa y tomaremos algo.

:confused:

Thanks
Debbie

Yo creo que deberías usar el subjuntivo cuando pienses que ocurrirá, pero no hay seguridad de eso

Cuando vengas a la casa llámame!, "hay mucho oportunidad para que eso vaya a ocurrir

Perikles January 30, 2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 70506)
:applause: Perikles is right. :)

It had to happen some day. :whistling:

irmamar January 30, 2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 70510)
It had to happen some day. :whistling:

I know that you're good at Spanish (though you don't want to admit (could I say "recognize" instead of admit? :thinking: ) it ;) :)

bobjenkins January 30, 2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 70514)
I know that you're good at Spanish (though you don't want to admit (could I say "recognize" instead of admit? :thinking: ) it ;) :)

Sí y no

..although you don´t want to recognize it - suena un poquito raro, pero está en lo cierto


..although you don´t recognize it, es mejor:)

irmamar January 30, 2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bobjenkins (Post 70516)
Sí y no

..although you don´t want to recognize it - suena un poquito raro, pero está en lo cierto


..although you don´t recognize it, es mejor:)

Thanks. :) :rose:

Is it better to use "although" instead of "though"? :thinking:

bobjenkins January 30, 2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 70521)
Thanks. :) :rose:

Is it better to use "although" instead of "though"? :thinking:

No sé lo siento, no he visto que estabas escribir "though" antes de que lo escriba. Me aparece que suena mejor "although", pero no tengo razón pensar de otro es incorrecto:thinking:

Vamos a tener que esperar por ellos que saben la gramática :D

irmamar January 30, 2010 11:13 AM

Esperaremos, pues. :)

Perikles January 30, 2010 11:34 AM

Get this: The SOED says

though: (adverb and conjunction) an adversative particle expressing that relation of two opposed facts in which the one is indequate to prevent the other, and therefore both concur, contrary to what might be expected.

although: concatenation of all + though

They mean the same, although although sounds better to me, though on second thoughts, maybe not. :D

irmamar January 30, 2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 70535)
Get this: The SOED says

though: (adverb and conjunction) an adversative particle expressing that relation of two opposed facts in which the one is indequate to prevent the other, and therefore both concur, contrary to what might be expected.

although: concatenation of all + though

They mean the same, although although sounds better to me, though on second thoughts, maybe not. :D

Would you say that "although" is more formal? :thinking:

Perikles January 30, 2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 70539)
Would you say that "although" is more formal? :thinking:

No - I can't see any difference. Although:D when arguing or thinking aloud, I would always use although, somehow more intensive:

Yes, I take your point, although I don't see why ....

or maybe just habit.:)

irmamar January 30, 2010 11:53 AM

I'll try to use "although", "though" I always use "though". :D

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 30, 2010 01:55 PM

I haven't seen "though" used much at the start of a subordinate sentence. I've usually seen "although" at the start of a formal sentence and "though" at the end of an informal one... but then again, I mostly deal with many non-native English speakers. :thinking:

Perikles January 30, 2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 70542)
I'll try to use "although", "though" I always use "though". :D

You will be correct at the beginning of a sentence, although see below: :D

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 70566)
I haven't seen "though" used much at the start of a subordinate sentence. I've usually seen "although" at the start of a formal sentence and "though" at the end of an informal one... but then again, I mostly deal with many non-native English speakers. :thinking:

Actually, you are quite correct, there is a difference, and I noticed it myself ten minutes ago when posting on another forum. If you end a sentence with it, it is always though. At the start of the sentence it can be though, although:D it is usually although.

Although your argument has merits, I still think you are wrong.:good::good:
Though your argument has merits, I still think you are wrong.:good::good:
Well, your argument has some merits, but I still think you're wrong, though.:good::good:
Well, your argument has some merits, though I still think you're wrong.:good::good:
Well, your argument has some merits, although I still think you're wrong.:good::good:
Well, your argument has some merits, but I still think you're wrong, although.:bad::bad:

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 30, 2010 05:45 PM

@Perikles: Thank you! I'll learn the use of both. :kiss:

deborahj January 31, 2010 02:15 AM

Hi Perikles,

Thankyou very much indeed for your help. I can get back to my homework now.

Hey there Irmamar!!!

How are you??? Hope you are well! Thanks for checking my question. :)

Thankyou very much Bob!!!

irmamar January 31, 2010 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by deborahj (Post 70614)
Hey there Irmamar!!!

How are you??? Hope you are well! Thanks for checking my question. :)

I'm glad to hear from you again. :) :rose:


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