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I usually forget to lock the door or locking the door


ROBINDESBOIS April 14, 2010 03:01 AM

I usually forget to lock the door or locking the door
 
Which structure is correct? And why?

bobjenkins April 14, 2010 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 79561)
Which structure is correct? And why?

Forget to lock the door

Perikles April 14, 2010 03:33 AM

The 'locking' is a present participle and the verbs to remember and to forget always take an infinitive, such as

I forgot to bring some money
I forgot to lock the door
I forgot to bring the keys

I remembered to bring some money .... etc.

However, the participle can be used with a difference of meaning in cases like this:

When I came home, I found the door of the house open, and this was strange because I distinctly remember locking it.

This is when you have a mental image of yourself doing something.

ROBINDESBOIS April 14, 2010 08:09 AM

I know that but my question is in cases like:
I usually forget locking or to lock, this is not a past action not sth I have to do. SOOO?

Perikles April 14, 2010 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 79581)
I know that but my question is in cases like:
I usually forget locking or to lock, this is not a past action not sth I have to do. SOOO?

Remember and forget take the infinitive in all tenses:

I had forgotten to lock the door
I have forgotten to lock the door
I forgot to lock the door
I used to forget to lock the door
I always forget to lock the door
It is always annoying when I forget to lock the door
Next Tuesday I shall forget to lock the door.
Next Wednesay I shall have forgotten to lock the door.

And in the imperative
Don't forget to lock the door
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.
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hermit April 14, 2010 12:33 PM

I would take "to forget locking the door" as "to forget having locked the door". (When perhaps you meant to leave it unlocked)

CrOtALiTo April 14, 2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 79561)
Which structure is correct? And why?

I forgot look the door.
I forgot close the door.

I don't know if that is the you really want to say there.

Perikles April 15, 2010 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo (Post 79632)
I forgot look the door.:bad:
I forgot close the door.:bad:

I don't know if that is the what you really want to say there.:good:

Read my post :rolleyes: Forget needs an infinitive, and you know what that is in English because you use it in "you really want to say". The infinitive in English (usually) has a to in it.

I forgot to close the door.

Don't forget to include the to. :D

ROBINDESBOIS April 15, 2010 07:43 AM

Well according to grammar books we use
I forgot locking the door
Don´t forget to lock the door.

Ambarina April 15, 2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 79700)
Well according to grammar books we use
I forgot locking the door
Don´t forget to lock the door.

I forgot locking the door = I locked the door but I forgot that I had locked it.
I forgot to lock the door = I did not lock the door because I forgot.
:)

Jessica April 15, 2010 10:31 AM

I forgot locking the door...it just to me doesn't really make sense :/

CrOtALiTo April 15, 2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 79699)
Read my post :rolleyes: Forget needs an infinitive, and you know what that is in English because you use it in "you really want to say". The infinitive in English (usually) has a to in it.

I forgot to close the door.

Don't forget to include the to. :D

I'm sorry my man for my ignorance.

Thank you for the suggestions.

momangphonui December 16, 2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambarina (Post 79703)
I forgot locking the door = I locked the door but I forgot that I had locked it.
I forgot to lock the door = I did not lock the door because I forgot.
:)

Thanks so much, Ambarina. I think many people misunderstanding this grammar and I do, either. I am teaching english but I also mistook forget+Ving.
PS:1/ I forget meeting her before---> It means you have met her before but you didnt remember.

2/ The thief got into the house because I forgot to lock the door.--->It means you didnt lock the door last night.

If you agree, pls note me!:applause:

I usually forget to lock the door.It's right!:love::love::thumbsup:

Awaken December 17, 2010 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambarina (Post 79703)
I forgot locking the door = I locked the door but I forgot that I had locked it.
I forgot to lock the door = I did not lock the door because I forgot.
:)

Exactly.

In these cases it is something you have or don't have a memory of.

I don't remember locking the door. - You are saying you don't have a memory of the locking.
I didn't remember to lock the door. - You know you did not lock it. You remember not locking it.

You could say "I didn't remember locking the door" BUT that is a very obscure case where you are in the present talking about the past when you didn't remember doing something in the even farther past.

In your case:

I usually forget to lock the door = I normally leave the door unlocked because I forget to lock it. - Here you know you are supposed to lock it, but you just can't remember to lock it before you leave or go to bed (or whatever).

I usually forget locking the door = Whenever I lock the door, I usually forget doing it. - Here you lock the door, but you can't remember locking it. This may be true if you do it in the mornings when you are really tired or your mind is very preoccupied with thought.

Hopefully all this helped. In your case, I think "to lock it" is the correct use and probably what is meant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by momangphonui (Post 102092)
Thanks so much, Ambarina. I think many people misunderstanding this grammar and I do, as welleither. I am teaching english but I also mistook forget+Ving.
PS:1/ I forget meeting her before---> It means you have met her before but you didnt remember.

2/ The thief got into the house because I forgot to lock the door.--->It means you didnt lock the door last night.

If you agree, pls note me!:applause:

Couple of corrections made above.

Jferstler December 19, 2010 08:55 AM

Everyone makes it so complicated. Here's some help:

"I forgot to lock the door"

"Don't forget to lock the door"

"I sometimes forget to lock the door"

Vincamerica December 19, 2010 03:02 PM

When using the word "forget" then "to lock" is correct. But if I were to say, "I tried locking the door but the lock was jammed", then "locking" is appropriate. Although, you can also say, "I tried to lock the door but the lock was jammed." Often you can say English sentences more than one way and they are equally correct.

Elaina December 19, 2010 03:11 PM

Vincamerica......that is so true. There are many variations to correct speech.

:twocents:

momangphonui December 20, 2010 07:09 AM

hehe, Thanks Awaken! love to make friend with you,ok?
I want to give another example:
* Forget+Ving is used in the imperative sentences
Ex:Forget brushing your hair, we are in hurry! It means that you should stop brushing your hair or you will be late.

Awaken December 20, 2010 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momangphonui (Post 102233)
hehe, Thanks Awaken! love to make friend with you,ok?
I want to give another example:
* Forget+Ving is used in the imperative sentences
Ex:Forget brushing your hair, we are in hurry! It means that you should stop brushing your hair or you will be late.

Haha. I sent you a friend request on here. You are correct with your use of the imperative version as well. Good addition to the discussion.


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