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irmamar May 28, 2010 06:20 AM
Badly
 
And yet the Princesses wanted badly to know these things,

 Y aunque las princesas querían conocer esas cuestiones a toda costa,


I'm not sure if "badly" can be translated into "a toda costa" in this sentence. "Mal" o "de mala manera" no tiene sentido en español. :thinking:


Thanks. :)

JPablo May 28, 2010 06:33 AM
Well, Random House gives you a definition,
badly 6. very much; to a great extent or degree: a house badly in need of repair; to want something badly.
"A toda costa" gives the idea of "at all costs" "no matter what" "whatever happens".
DRAE gives, a toda costa: Sin limitación en el gasto o en el trabajo.
So, based on that I would not consider "a toda costa" "an unduly free translation", but I think it would convey the same concept or idea. You could check other "intensives" like "desesperadamente". I give you some options here (lacking more context, but these may help you too.)

Y aun así, las princesas querían enterarse de esas cosas a toda costa...
Y aun así, las princesas se desvivían intensamente por saber/conocer esas cosas
Y aun así, las princesas se desvivían sin límite y sin mesura por saber/conocer esas cosas... :)

laepelba May 28, 2010 06:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 84215)
And yet the Princesses wanted badly to know these things,

 Y aunque las princesas querían conocer esas cuestiones a toda costa,


I'm not sure if "badly" can be translated into "a toda costa" in this sentence. "Mal" o "de mala manera" no tiene sentido en español. :thinking:


Thanks. :)
I'm not sure about the Spanish translation, but when I add the term "badly" as has been done in this example sentence, it is for emphasis....

The princess wanted to know these things....
The princess REALLY wanted to know these things.....
The princess had a very, very great desire to know these things.....
The princess wanted badly to know these things....

Do I make sense?

Perikles May 28, 2010 07:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 84221)
The princess REALLY wanted to know these things.....
To me, badly often has the sense of urgently, such as:


they had to stop the car because he was badly in need of a toilet (AmE - restroom :whistling:)

or:
The house was badly in need of repair
(otherwise it might deteriorate or fall down).

Still, I suppose that if the princess REALLY wanted to know these things, the sense of urgency is there.

chileno May 28, 2010 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 84226)
To me, badly often has the sense of urgently, such as:


they had to stop the car because he was badly in need of a toilet (AmE - restroom :whistling:)

or:
The house was badly in need of repair
(otherwise it might deteriorate or fall down).

Still, I suppose that if the princess REALLY wanted to know these things, the sense of urgency is there.
All of the examples would work, right?

Even "...burning desire..."

Although each of these terms cannot fit all cases, depending on context.

Elaina May 28, 2010 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPablo (Post 84217)
Well, Random House gives you a definition,
badly 6. very much; to a great extent or degree: a house badly in need of repair; to want something badly.
"A toda costa" gives the idea of "at all costs" "no matter what" "whatever happens".
DRAE gives, a toda costa: Sin limitación en el gasto o en el trabajo.
So, based on that I would not consider "a toda costa" "an unduly free translation", but I think it would convey the same concept or idea. You could check other "intensives" like "desesperadamente". I give you some options here (lacking more context, but these may help you too.)

Y aun así, las princesas querían enterarse de esas cosas a toda costa...
Y aun así, las princesas se desvivían intensamente por saber/conocer esas cosas
Y aun así, las princesas se desvivían sin límite y sin mesura por saber/conocer esas cosas... :)

Is it .... #1 a toda costa ..... or is it ........ #2 a cualquier costo



Because the word badly can also be understood at any cost which would be #2....

hmmmm:thinking::thinking:

JPablo May 28, 2010 08:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elaina (Post 84235)
Is it .... #1 a toda costa ..... or is it ........ #2 a cualquier costo

Because the word badly can also be understood at any cost which would be #2....

hmmmm:thinking::thinking:
In Spain I always used it as "a toda costa" (which is how it is in DRAE). I could also say "a cualquier costo" or "a cualquier coste" or "cueste lo que cueste"...

But the first option seems the more common. (I get your concern, but it kind of boils down to the same basic idea.)

By the by, Les Luthiers have a very good one... "Quiero que me hagan una estatua ecuestre [montado a caballo] ¡'cuestre lo que cuestre'! :lol: :lol:

chileno May 28, 2010 08:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elaina (Post 84235)
Is it .... #1 a toda costa ..... or is it ........ #2 a cualquier costo



Because the word badly can also be understood at any cost which would be #2....

hmmmm:thinking::thinking:
Correct.

a toda costa = at all cost

A cualquier costo = at any cost

pjt33 May 28, 2010 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 84215)
And yet the Princesses wanted badly to know these things,

 Y aunque las princesas querían conocer esas cuestiones a toda costa,


I'm not sure if "badly" can be translated into "a toda costa" in this sentence. "Mal" o "de mala manera" no tiene sentido en español. :thinking:


Thanks. :)
I would translate it:

Y a pesar de eso las princesas anhelaban conocer/saber estas cosas.

chileno May 28, 2010 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 84281)
I would translate it:

Y a pesar de eso las princesas anhelaban conocer/saber estas cosas.
For me "anhelaban = sought", right?

pjt33 May 28, 2010 03:20 PM
"Sought" es más "buscar" que "desear". Suelo traducir "anhelar" en "to long".

CrOtALiTo May 28, 2010 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 84215)
And yet the Princesses wanted badly to know these things,

 Y aunque las princesas querían conocer esas cuestiones a toda costa,


I'm not sure if "badly" can be translated into "a toda costa" in this sentence. "Mal" o "de mala manera" no tiene sentido en español. :thinking:


Thanks. :)
I did a little search in the internet and I found that the word badly means con urgencia.

Then it could be literally translated so.

And yet the Princesses wanted badly to know these things,
Y la princesa queria con urgencia saber esas cosas o questiones.

I hope that my attempt can help you.

Sincerely yours.

chileno May 28, 2010 11:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 84332)
"Sought" es más "buscar" que "desear". Suelo traducir "anhelar" en "to long".
Well, there you go. :-)

Thanks.


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