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Native Spanish speakers and Italian


Roloman4 November 29, 2010 03:54 PM

Native Spanish speakers and Italian
 
Hello, I have recently become very interested in learning other Italic Languages. One that has caught my particular attention is Italian. I was born in Ecuador and lived there until I was 13, two years ago, therefore I am perfectly fluent in Spanish. I have also taken three years of French and I feel fairly comfortable in it. I was just wondering, given my background, how easy -or difficult- would learning Italian turn out to be?


Thank you, Gracias, Merci.

Juan.

poli November 29, 2010 08:08 PM

For Spanish speakers, Italian will be much easier for you than French. Much Italian translates directly or nearly directly to Spanish. :shh:All Spanish speakers know some Italian(whether they are aware of it or not)

AngelicaDeAlquezar November 30, 2010 09:41 AM

Italian will be easier for you to learn. Grammar is more similar to French than to Spanish, and despite the differences, it's not too hard to learn. Exercising and writing are good enough to remember it. And one has to be very careful with false friends in vocabulary.

Awaken February 02, 2011 07:21 AM

I agree with everyone else. Learning Italian for a trip has been MUCH easier to me than it was learning French. The pronunciation will come very easy for a Spanish speaker.

irmamar February 02, 2011 01:05 PM

L'italiano é molto facile e divertente. :D

I think I'll take up my Italian books next year, I hope I haven't forgotten a lot. :thinking:

Bella lingua. :)

serendipity February 08, 2011 12:21 PM

I can't really answer your question, I just wanted to say that I envy your ability to speak that many languages! Especially THOSE languages. I want to learn spanish... REALLY learn it, not just be able to order food in a restaurant, but actually read books and stuff. I find the grammar extremely difficult, and it feels like it only gets harder the more I learn.. I don't think I'll ever get the hang of it! Lucky you :D

Caballero February 08, 2011 03:05 PM

I'll help you learn to read it. Spanish is the easiest language to read for English speakers, or at least in the top 3. Because English has borrowed heavily from Latin, and Spanish evolved from Latin (at one time it was Latin, but has changed a lot over the years.) The part of the vocabulary that English that is borrowed from Latin is scientific, technical, and refined language. You can look up an article on the history of English if you want to find out why that is. So, what that means is that your vocabulary in Spanish is already in the thousands of words--you just don't realize it yet. This also means that you will be able to read certain things more easily than others in Spanish. It also means that you aren't stuck with just reading books for niñitos, which you would be for a long time if you were taking Chinese, or even German.

So, let's begin.
Go to www.wikipedia.org and select Español, read a few articles (without a dictionary or translator), and then come back here and tell me on a scale from 1-10 how easy it was to read the articles. Then I can get an idea of your level.

pinosilano February 22, 2011 05:05 AM

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And one has to be very careful with false friends in vocabulary
They are terribly treacherous.:eek:
Some people as me have created a new form of expression with both languages: spanish and italian, called "itagnolo":p

poli February 22, 2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pinosilano (Post 105941)
They are terribly treacherous.:eek:
Some people like me have created a new form of expression with both languages: Spanish and Italian, called "itagnolo":p

People from Argentina have been doing this for over a century. Are you from Italy?

pinosilano February 23, 2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by poli (Post 106008)
People from Argentina have been doing this for over a century. Are you from Italy?

I just said somewhere in these forums that my mother language is spanish and my stepmother language italian. Every day I used both of them and not always one at the time, but mixed.:cool:

BTW: as:bad:...like:good:
Thanks.

CrOtALiTo February 23, 2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pinosilano (Post 106024)
I just said somewhere in these forums that my mother language is spanish and my stepmother language italian. Every day I used both of them and not always one at the time, but mixed.:cool:

BTW: as:bad:...like:good:
Thanks.

Then you speak Italian language and your tongue language is Spanish, you are naturally born in some place or country where is firstly spoken the Spanish.

That's great, because then you should to have a fluently speech, you could to teach your Spanish to other users signed here in the forums.


I'd like to practice with someone but in English, in essence of that I can practice more my English skills.


Sincerely yours.

poli February 24, 2011 06:37 PM

Remember as is the conjunction(it's use as a preposition is pretty limited) and like is the preposition. In ordinary nonformal English, like is sometimes used as a conjunction. That's OK as long as the speaker is aware that it isn't quite right. The opposite (as me) doesn't work nearly as well in English.
Easy rule: like goes with me, as goes with I.

Spanish speakers always talk about how similar it it to Italian, but I find
spoken Italian baffling. I sometimes go to an Italian restaurant where the
Italian waiter has taught the Spanish-speaking busboys to speak Italian.

El mesero crió un ambiente muy simpático. Unos jóvenes de Mexico llegaron a EEUU y aprendieron italiano en su trabajo pero muy poco inglés. La vida tiene sus ironías.

irmamar February 25, 2011 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by poli (Post 106179)
Easy rule: like goes with me, as goes with I.

Good rule :thumbsup: :)

pinosilano March 01, 2011 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by poli (Post 106179)
Easy rule: like goes with me, as goes with I.

TATOO:
Me haré un tatuaje en el brazo izquierdo con esta "easy rule".

CrOtALiTo March 01, 2011 12:17 PM

Hello.

In my own view point, I the tatos aren't my typo, already that some picture or draws in your body looks impolite and not polite.

I don't know maybe my way thing is past of vogue, but well I respect all the different points and thinking of the people.


I don't like the tatoos draws in my body.

pinosilano March 07, 2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by poli (Post 106008)
People from Argentina have been doing this for over a century. Are you from Italy?

Argentinians made the same thing with french, portuguese, genovese, spanish dialects and created the "Lunfardo"


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