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Old June 29, 2010, 11:59 AM
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Hola,

¿Como se diría en español..... Have you filed your taxes yet?

The word I am having problems with is filed..... such a simple word and it's giving me a headache.

Archivar does not sound good.
Llenar also does not sound good.
Hacer does not sound proper, to me.

Help!
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Old June 29, 2010, 12:21 PM
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Llenar sounds like it could work meaning like "Have you filled out your taxes" but we can wait for a native speaker.
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Old June 29, 2010, 12:39 PM
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Hola,

¿Como se diría en español..... Have you filed your taxes yet?

The word I am having problems with is filed..... such a simple word and it's giving me a headache.

Archivar does not sound good.
Llenar also does not sound good.
Hacer does not sound proper, to me.

Help!
Esta un poco difícil, pero allí va.

-Haz hecho tu declaración de impuestos?
-Sí.

Con eso ya se da por descontado que todo está hecho y mandado. Pero la respuesta puede ser también:

-Sí, pero falta mandarla.
- ¿Y qué estás esperando?



Espero que sea de ayuda.

Aunque algunas veces, dudo que ayude mucho.
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Old June 29, 2010, 01:39 PM
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I agree with Chileno.

In a conversation, when you already know the time of the year (April, in Mexico), you could ask "¿Ya hiciste tu declaración?".

As for the verbs you thought of, you can say:

· Hacer una declaración de impuestos
· Llenar la forma de declaración de impuestos
· Archivar declaraciones pasadas/anteriores
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Old June 29, 2010, 01:41 PM
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I agree with Chileno.

In a conversation, when you already know the time of the year (April, in Mexico), you could ask "¿Ya hiciste tu declaración?".

As for the verbs you thought of, you can say:

· Hacer una declaración de impuestos
· Llenar la forma de declaración de impuestos
· Archivar declaraciones pasadas/anteriores
Aunque yo no usaría "formas" en vez de "formulario(s)"
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Old June 29, 2010, 02:46 PM
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Gracias a todos..... pero ¿qué si es un formulario donde pregunta esto?

Por ejemplo.....

- Did you file your 2010 Income Tax?
- If you didn't then please state the reason you don't have to file.

¡Gracias de nuevo!
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Old June 29, 2010, 03:11 PM
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Filed taxes means declaracion de impuestos.
Then it result very interesting.
I didn't know it.

I have to do my filed taxes of this year.
I haven't filed taxes yet.
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Old June 29, 2010, 04:32 PM
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"Declarar impuestos" es el verbo oficial en México, pero puede cambiar de país a país.

Si es una pregunta en el formulario, es probable que diga "¿Presentó usted su declaración de impuestos en 2009?" / "¿Hizo usted declaración de impuestos en 2009?" / "¿Declaró usted impuestos en 2009?"
Y "Si no es así, por favor explique la razón por la que no declaró." / "...por la que no hizo (su) declaración (de impuestos)."
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Old June 29, 2010, 04:34 PM
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¡Perfecto! Gracias Angélica.
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"Declarar impuestos" es el verbo oficial en México, pero puede cambiar de país a país.
Sí. En España no declaras los impuestos sino la renta.
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Old June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM
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Sí. En España no declaras los impuestos sino la renta.
Y es lo más correcto. Renta = ingresos.

Lo que pasa que por lo menos en Chile, la oración completa es "Declaración de impuestos a la renta"

Same in English.

The initial question should've been "Did you file your income taxes?" Generally is just "Did you file your taxes?"
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Aquí es "declaración de impuestos sobre la renta", pero no son los únicos impuestos que se ponen en una declaración.

También se declaran los impuestos que ya han sido pagados, como el impuesto al valor agregado (sobre el consumo de bienes y servicios), y algunos otros, dependiendo de la actividad que se realice y si es uno un contribuyente individual o una empresa.
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Did you filed the taxes this year?

Here on Mexico at least here you pay more than in U.S.A and after we the Mexican people say that we are poor for the kind to government and the economic.
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***stupid question alert*****stupid question alert******

I don't understand the "declaración de impuestos sobre la renta" ... does the word "renta" mean rent as in what you pay for rent? Or what you receive as rental income.

Hey......I warned you about the sqa!
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Y es lo más correcto.

Renta = ingresos.
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***stupid question alert*****stupid question alert******

I don't understand the "declaración de impuestos sobre la renta" ... does the word "renta" mean rent as in what you pay for rent? Or what you receive as rental income.

Hey......I warned you about the sqa!
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Old June 30, 2010, 07:12 PM
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¿Porqué se le llama renta a los ingresos?

En España la palabra renta significa ingreso y los que entendemos por renta aquí en USA es alquiler, ¿si?
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¿Porqué se le llama renta a los ingresos?

En España la palabra renta significa ingreso y los que entendemos por renta aquí en USA es alquiler, ¿si?
Hi,

Here in mexico renta has both meanings, "ingreso" as well as "alquiler".
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renta.
(Del lat. reddita, infl. por vendita).
1. f. Utilidad o beneficio que rinde anualmente algo, o lo que de ello se cobra.
2. f. Aquello que paga en dinero o en frutos un arrendatario.
3. f. Ingreso, caudal, aumento de la riqueza de una persona.
4. f. Deuda del Estado o títulos que la representan.
5. f. Der. En materia tributaria, importe neto de los rendimientos.
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¿Porqué se le llama renta a los ingresos?

En España la palabra renta significa ingreso y los que entendemos por renta aquí en USA es alquiler, ¿si?
'Like alx said, it means both.

If you ask anybody here in the States lo que significa vivir de las rentas, un montón de gente sabrá exactamente a que se refiere.
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[Sí. En España no declaras los impuestos sino la renta.]
(Answering the above)
Bueno, en España "haces la declaración sobre la renta".
También, 'presentar' como dice Angélica.
- Did you file your 2010 Income Tax?
- ¿Ha presentado/presentó ud. su declaración sobre la renta correspondiente al 2010?
- If you didn't then please state the reason you don't have to file.
- Si no es así, exponga la razón por la que no tuvo que hacerlo [or, no tuvo que presentarla/no la presentó.].
Por lo demás, de acuerdo con todos los demás. (Y si lo que escribo está de más, pues perdonen...)

Moliner tiene dos buenas definiciones de renta
4 Econ. Conjunto de todos los ingresos que percibe una persona o empresa: ‘Impuesto sobre la renta’.
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Renta per cápita. Econ. La que se obtiene de dividir la «renta nacional» por el número de habitantes de un país.
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Pero renta no sólo significa ingresos (en salario o en especie), sino cualquier bien que te produzca un beneficio, aunque no sea monetario. Por ejemplo, en la declaración de la renta, la vivienda habitual te grava y no te produce un beneficio económico (más bien al contrario, te ocasiona gastos); sin embargo se habla de "rendimientos de capital inmobiliario".
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