Damnificado

[DailyWord]

This is a discussion thread for the Daily Spanish Word for October 29, 2009

damnificado (masculine noun (el)) — victim, affected person. Look up damnificado in the dictionary

Entre los damnificados por la inundación había mucha gente que perdió todas sus pertenencias.
Among those affected by the flood, there were many people who lost all their belongings.

[EmpanadaRica]

Very interesting.

Out of curiosity, how would one say 'doomed' or 'damned' as in a person that is doomed /damned from a religious/damnation/pre-determined fate or 'fatalistic' point of view?

[chileno]

Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica

Very interesting.

Out of curiosity, how would one say 'doomed' or 'damned' as in a person that is doomed /damned from a religious/damnation/pre-determined fate or 'fatalistic' point of view?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doomed

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by chileno

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doomed

Hmm.. sorry Chili I am not sure why you gave me this link?
Do you mean I should have asked about being 'condemned' or '(pre)destined' instead?

[chileno]

Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica

Hmm.. sorry Chili I am not sure why you gave me this link?
Do you mean I should have asked about being 'condemned' or '(pre)destined' instead?

I am sorry. I wanted to post this link, instead...

http://www.wordreference.com/es/tran...nes&B10=Search

condenado is the translation for doomed or condemned.

[laepelba]

I'm glad that Laura asked the question. I have been contemplating this term and its similarity to the word "damned" in English. The relationship seems to be interesting ... I may need to chase down the etymology. Does anyone have a good website that discusses the etymology of Spanish words? Do you think I'd be able to understand these discussions? Thanks!

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by laepelba

I'm glad that Laura asked the question. I have been contemplating this term and its similarity to the word "damned" in English. The relationship seems to be interesting ... I may need to chase down the etymology. Does anyone have a good website that discusses the etymology of Spanish words? Do you think I'd be able to understand these discussions? Thanks!

At a guess, I would say that damnificado and damned both come from Latin damno, damnare which has two meanings 1) to inflict loss upon 2) to find guilty, condemn, convict (synonymous with condemno, opposite to absolvo). Damno + facio to make giving damnificado.

[laepelba]

Originally Posted by Perikles

At a guess, I would say that damnificado and damned both come from Latin damno, damnare which has two meanings 1) to inflict loss upon 2) to find guilty, condemn, convict (synonymous with condemno, opposite to absolvo). Damno + facio to make giving damnificado.

Cool! Thanks, Perikles. Do you have a website with quality etymologies of Spanish words?

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Cool! Thanks, Perikles. Do you have a website with quality etymologies of Spanish words?

Not yet, no. But I do have a large Latin dictionary on my bookshelf. I also have a book of Spanish etymologies, but this one wasn't in it.

[EmpanadaRica]

Muy interesante..!!!!

Muchas gracias, thanx a lot Chili and Perikles.
The explanation from the Latin root-word makes a lot of sense actually!

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Do you have a website with quality etymologies of Spanish words?

I have just found this one, but I don't know how extensive it is. Damnificado is not in it!

[laepelba]

Thanks, Perikles! Let me know if you find any more.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

At a guess, I would say that damnificado and damned both come from Latin damno, damnare which has two meanings 1) to inflict loss upon 2) to find guilty, condemn, convict (synonymous with condemno, opposite to absolvo). Damno + facio to make giving damnificado.

Damni-ficar me recuerda al catalán "ficar" (poner, colocar, fijar), por lo que creo que no viene de facio sino de figere. Por lo tanto, podría venir de "poner en el daño o en el perjuicio"

Lou Ann, en las entradas de la RAE hay una pequeña alusión a la etimología. Al menos para empezar está bien

[laepelba]

Me encantada la RAE. Sé que hay una pequeña alusión a la etimología ... pero muy pequeña. Mira a esta sitio que encontré hace algunas meses. Me gusta la discusión sobre "con/conmigo/contigo". Eso es lo que me hizo empezar a buscar las etimologías de las palabras en español.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Me encantada la RAE. Sé que hay una pequeña alusión a la etimología ... pero muy pequeña. Mira a esta sitio que encontré hace algunas meses. Me gusta la discusión sobre "con/conmigo/contigo". Eso es lo que me hizo empezar a buscar las etimologías de las palabras en español.

¿Dónde está el sitio?

[Perikles]

I've just found this

derived from the Latin word damnificare (injure; fine)derived from the Latin word facere (to make; act, take action, be active; compose, write; classify; do, make; create; make, build, construct; produce; produce by growth; bring forth)

on this website.

[laepelba]

Originally Posted by irmamar

¿Dónde está el sitio?

Oops! I meant to include it at the end and forgot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_prepositions

Haha.......


Perikles - THANK YOU!!!!

[irmamar]

Puede ser. No soy una experta . Pero eso de "ficar"...