Confused words

[irmamar]

I'd like to give you a suggestion. Both English and Spanish speakers have some problems with words which are sometimes confused or even misused. Usually they're pair of words, such as: ser-estar, para-por, job-work, make-do, etc. I've seen there is a fixed thread about ser-estar.

My suggestion would be to create a new sub-forum somewhere, where these words (pair of words or maybe more than two), which are often confused and which make a trouble for learners, could be set. In this way, we could search for them easily. Or I think so. What do you think?

[Jessica]

hmmm that's an excellent idea!

[chileno]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I'd like to give you a suggestion. Both English and Spanish speakers have some problems with words which are sometimes confused or even misused. Usually they're pair of words, such as: ser-estar, para-por, job-work, make-do, etc. I've seen there is a fixed thread about ser-estar.

My suggestion would be to create a new sub-forum somewhere, where these words (pair of words or maybe more than two), which are often confused and which make a trouble for learners, could be set. In this way, we could search for them easily. Or I think so. What do you think?

That's the idea.

Now, instead of having it made by other people, do it for and by yourself/selves.

And the benefit will be that of a 100%

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by chileno

That's the idea.

Now, instead of having it made by other people, do it for and by yourself/selves.

And the benefit will be that of a 100%

I've been studying make-do, at-in, of-from, etc. a lot of times, then I forget again or, sometimes, there's a new sentence and I'm not sure the way of applying the rules I've learnt. These words need practice and I think the forum would be a good place to practice them and learn them. I know you're right, Chileno, but this forum is a good way to practice a language. Don't you think so?

There are a lot of ways for learning, but if the way is easy and funny, that would be the best way.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I'd like to give you a suggestion. Both English and Spanish speakers have some problems with words which are sometimes confused or even misused. Usually they're pair of words, such as: ser-estar, para-por, job-work, make-do, etc. I've seen there is a fixed thread about ser-estar.

My suggestion would be to create a new sub-forum somewhere, where these words (pair of words or maybe more than two), which are often confused and which make a trouble for learners, could be set. In this way, we could search for them easily. Or I think so. What do you think?

¡Buena idea Irmamar!

Para-por son difíciles por/para mí (¿o es para?)

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

¡Buena idea Irmamar!

Para-por son difíciles por/para mí (¿o es para?)

Para mí

I didn't know you, English speakers, had a problem with para/por until the other day in one thread. I knew you had with ser/estar. So, thinking about it, I thought than surely there are more words which are a problem, sometimes. Spanish speakers also have several words with the same problem. That's because I opened this thread

Looking examples or talking about these words, maybe help us to fix them in the memory.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Para mí

I didn't know you, English speakers, had a problem with para/por until the other day in one thread. I knew you had with ser/estar. So, thinking about it, I thought than surely there are more words which are a problem, sometimes. Spanish speakers also have several words with the same problem. That's because I opened this thread

Looking examples or talking about these words, maybe help us to fix them in the memory.

Como dijiste los hispanohablantes nativos tiene problemas con "hacer do/make"

Hacemos una lista de la palabras

Hacer- do/make
For- para/por
To be- ser/estar
Understand- contender/comprender

¿Puedas pensar otros?

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

[...]

Understand- contender entender/comprender

[...]

"Contender" es pelear.


Pero ¿cuál es la confusión para "understand"? En ese caso, entender y comprender son sinónimos.

[irmamar]

Yo añadiría work/job (trabajo o trabajar)
Y creo que todas las preposiciones

Por ejemplo in/at

I'm at a little village
I'm in Madrid
But am I in or at a town?

Don't you have problems with "de"?

Vengo de Barcelona (from Barcelona)
Esta novela es de Cervantes (written by Cervantes)
La mesa está hecha de madera (of wood, I think)

Above/over, under/below, about/around, etc.

A medida que las vas utilizando, van saliendo palabras y vas viendo que a veces no sabes usarlas bien.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar

"Contender" es pelear.


Pero ¿cuál es la confusión para "understand"? En ese caso, entender y comprender son sinónimos.

¡A mí lista me parece muy corta! Por eso yo la añadí. Bromear aparte (joking aside) no sabé que son sinónimos.

Cuídate

[irmamar]

Podrían estar los tiempos y los modos verbales, también (por ejemplo). Todo aquello que nos haga dudar.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Yo añadiría work/job (trabajo o trabajar)
Y creo que todas las preposiciones

Por ejemplo in/at

I'm at a little village
I'm in Madrid
But am I in or at a town?

Don't you have problems with "de"?

Vengo de Barcelona (from Barcelona)
Esta novela es de Cervantes (written by Cervantes)
La mesa está hecha de madera (of wood, I think)

Above/over, under/below, about/around, etc.

A medida que las vas utilizando, van saliendo palabras y vas viendo que a veces no sabes usarlas bien.

Sí "de" es un poco difícil. Por ejemplo en estes casos

Tengo ganas de verte aprender
No tengo la culpa de causarlos perder el partido

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

Sí "de" es un poco difícil. Por ejemplo en estes casos

Tengo ganas de verte aprender
No tengo la culpa de ser la causa de que perdieran el partido

Some corrections,

Pero no sería:

No tengo la culpa de que perdieran el partido

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Some corrections,

Pero no sería:

No tengo la culpa de que perdieran el partido

Muchas gracias amiga!

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

Muchas gracias amiga!

You're welcome

[chileno]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I've been studying make-do, at-in, of-from, etc. a lot of times, then I forget again or, sometimes, there's a new sentence and I'm not sure the way of applying the rules I've learnt. These words need practice and I think the forum would be a good place to practice them and learn them. I know you're right, Chileno, but this forum is a good way to practice a language. Don't you think so?

There are a lot of ways for learning, but if the way is easy and funny, that would be the best way.

That's why I recommend to transcribe a novel in English.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by chileno

That's why I recommend to transcribe a novel in English.

mucho tiempo para hacerlo Pero una buena idea, gracias

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I'd like to give you a suggestion. Both English and Spanish speakers have some problems with words which are sometimes confused or even misused. Usually they're pair of words, such as: ser-estar, para-por, job-work, make-do, etc. I've seen there is a fixed thread about ser-estar.

My suggestion would be to create a new sub-forum somewhere, where these words (pair of words or maybe more than two), which are often confused and which make a trouble for learners, could be set. In this way, we could search for them easily. Or I think so. What do you think?

Yes, I think that is a good idea the create a sub-forums with only thread about doubts or questions of the user, so we will can find the thread of way easier than now, I guess that so can leave to use the dictionary from Tomisimo, I'm sorry even I read the other answer about your questions because I'm arriving to travel from Villahermosa, and I could to read the threads before mentioned.

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I'd like to give you a suggestion. Both English and Spanish speakers have some problems with words which are sometimes confused or even misused. Usually they're pair of words, such as: ser-estar, para-por, job-work, make-do, etc. I've seen there is a fixed thread about ser-estar.

My suggestion would be to create a new sub-forum somewhere, where these words (pair of words or maybe more than two), which are often confused and which make a trouble for learners, could be set. In this way, we could search for them easily. Or I think so. What do you think?

Exelentísima idea. I was waiting to reply here while I thought out the best way to do this, but I think we can start out with a sub-forum of the grammar forum. The sub-forum can be for "articles" about any confusing topic in English or Spanish-- grammar topics, confusing vocabulary topics, prepositions etc. I will get a sub-forum going here as soon as I can, but in the meanwhile, if you want, you can go ahead and create threads in the grammar forum and I can move them later. Thanks for the great suggestion!

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Tomisimo

Exelentísima idea. I was waiting to reply here while I thought out the best way to do this, but I think we can start out with a sub-forum of the grammar forum. The sub-forum can be for "articles" about any confusing topic in English or Spanish-- grammar topics, confusing vocabulary topics, prepositions etc. I will get a sub-forum going here as soon as I can, but in the meanwhile, if you want, you can go ahead and create threads in the grammar forum and I can move them later. Thanks for the great suggestion!

I'm glad you liked it and I hope it'll be useful. You will know the best way to do it (I mean the infraestructure). Thanks.