Punto y aparte

[poli]

Can someone tell me what punto y aparte means?

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by poli

Can someone tell me what punto y aparte means?

Punto y aparte is a full stop, but I think you're not referring to this, but as an expression. This has the same meaning than "se acabó". For instance, you're discussing with somebody and you want to stop that discussion, so you say "punto y aparte".

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

En escritura, el punto y aparte es el punto que se pone al final de un párrafo.

Como expresión, se dice de alguien o algo que es "punto y aparte" cuando se trata de enfatizar que es algo o alguien especial o bien que no es necesario mencionar en el momento y que requiere un tratamiento específico. (Con frecuencia puede llevar una carga de sentido irónico o sarcástico.)


-- Los elefantes son mamíferos.
-- ¿Como las cebras?
-- Sí, pero ésas son punto y aparte.


Juan se lleva bien con todos sus vecinos, pero la vecina de al lado es punto y aparte.


Le regalé a todos un chocolate, pero a Pedro le di dos. Él es punto y aparte.

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[ROBINDESBOIS]

Or just simply period.

[irmamar]

• Hacer un punto y aparte: Dar por concluido o por terminado un tema, una tarea o un asunto, y cambiar a otro.

http://cvc.cervantes.es/aula/pasatie...011999_01s.htm

[Tomisimo]

In writing:

punto y aparte
punto (end the sentence) y aparte (start a new paragraph)

punto y seguido
punto (end the sentence) y seguido (start a new sentence [but not a new paragraph])

[irmamar]

I think you don't distinguish between "punto y aparte" and "punto final", both of them are "full stop", am I wrong?

[Tomisimo]

full stop (BrE) = period (AmE) = punto (no punto y aparte)

[ROBINDESBOIS]

Eso es punto y aparte = That´s a different story Glory.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Tomisimo

full stop (BrE) = period (AmE) = punto (no punto y aparte)

Is full stop a period in BrE? I had always heard full stop as "punto y aparte", and "stop" as "punto" (and I've learnt BrE). Copy from wordreference.com:

punto y aparte, full stop, new paragraph

[poli]

So I suppose you can use punto y aparte
to mean: to change the subject...

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Is full stop a period in BrE? I had always heard full stop as "punto y aparte", and "stop" as "punto" (and I've learnt BrE). Copy from wordreference.com:

punto y aparte, full stop, new paragraph

Full stop is used in British English, period is used in North American English, and punto is used in Spanish. These are equivalent and refer to the punctuation mark that is a dot (.) and is used to end a declarative sentence.

Punto y aparte means to end the sentence and start a new paragraph, so punto y aparte means "full stop, new paragraph" (in British English) or "period, new paragraph" (in North American English).

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by poli

So I suppose you can use punto y aparte
to mean: to change the subject...

Probably. You could also use "cambiar de tema".

[irmamar]

OK, thanks, tomísimo.

[EmpanadaRica]

It's really interesting to read.

Maybe you could say:
'Enough about this already'.
'Let's change the subject'.
'Let's drop this (subject)'.
If you want to tell somone: 'Let it go already'.

It' s interesting to see that it is used in two different ways, where we have two very similar expressions in Dutch meaning the same.

'punto y aparte' in the sense of 'period, new subject':
'punt uit!' (punto, terminado')

'punto y aparte' in the sense of 'another case entirely', 'a special case':
'een geval apart' (un caso aparte).

[irmamar]

Is that "geval" pronounced with that horrible /j/ I'm not able to pronounce?

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Is that "geval" pronounced with that horrible /j/ I'm not able to pronounce?

Probably...

[brute]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Is full stop a period in BrE? I had always heard full stop as "punto y aparte", and "stop" as "punto" (and I've learnt BrE). Copy from wordreference.com:

punto y aparte, full stop, new paragraph

full stop is simply "." We do not use the word period in this context. We do not have a special term for a full stop at the end of a paragraph. If we are dictating we would say "full stop, new paragraph"

I believe that a "period" in US can also be a complete complex sentence. Is this correct?

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by brute

I believe that a "period" in US can also be a complete complex sentence. Is this correct?

Most people wouldn't recognize that term, but yes, it can refer to a meaningful, impressive, well-balanced/formed and complex sentence.