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Old January 30, 2010, 08:45 AM
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Indicativo o del subjuntivo!!!

I would be very grateful if someone could tell me which is the correct form of the word in brackets, indicativo or subjuntivo and why. Thankyou.


No tengo mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder)....................., me gusta hacer un poco de deporte.

Ya se que no tienes mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).....................,
ven a mi casa y tomaremos algo.



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Old January 30, 2010, 09:13 AM
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I'll have a go, but wait for a Spanish speaker to correct me:

No tengo mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder)......puedo..............., me gusta hacer un poco de deporte.

This is a statement of fact, without any supposition, so there is no reason to use a subjunctive


Ya se que no tienes mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).......puedas..............,
ven a mi casa y tomaremos algo.

Here, it is a supposition, because it is uncertain that it is possible, (like ... if you were able to ...) so you use a subjunctive.
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Old January 30, 2010, 10:16 AM
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Old January 30, 2010, 10:21 AM
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I would be very grateful if someone could tell me which is the correct form of the word in brackets, indicativo or subjuntivo and why. Thankyou.


No tengo mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).indicativo., me gusta hacer un poco de deporte.

Ya se que no tienes mucho tiempo pero, cuando (poder).subjuntivo..,
ven
a mi casa y tomaremos algo.



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Yo creo que deberías usar el subjuntivo cuando pienses que ocurrirá, pero no hay seguridad de eso

Cuando vengas a la casa llámame!, "hay mucho oportunidad para que eso vaya a ocurrir
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Old January 30, 2010, 10:34 AM
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Perikles is right.
It had to happen some day.
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Old January 30, 2010, 10:39 AM
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It had to happen some day.
I know that you're good at Spanish (though you don't want to admit (could I say "recognize" instead of admit? ) it
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Old January 30, 2010, 10:43 AM
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I know that you're good at Spanish (though you don't want to admit (could I say "recognize" instead of admit? ) it
Sí y no

..although you don´t want to recognize it - suena un poquito raro, pero está en lo cierto


..although you don´t recognize it, es mejor
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Old January 30, 2010, 10:58 AM
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Sí y no

..although you don´t want to recognize it - suena un poquito raro, pero está en lo cierto


..although you don´t recognize it, es mejor
Thanks.

Is it better to use "although" instead of "though"?
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Old January 30, 2010, 11:03 AM
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Thanks.

Is it better to use "although" instead of "though"?
No sé lo siento, no he visto que estabas escribir "though" antes de que lo escriba. Me aparece que suena mejor "although", pero no tengo razón pensar de otro es incorrecto

Vamos a tener que esperar por ellos que saben la gramática
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Old January 30, 2010, 11:13 AM
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Esperaremos, pues.
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Old January 30, 2010, 11:34 AM
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Get this: The SOED says

though: (adverb and conjunction) an adversative particle expressing that relation of two opposed facts in which the one is indequate to prevent the other, and therefore both concur, contrary to what might be expected.

although: concatenation of all + though

They mean the same, although although sounds better to me, though on second thoughts, maybe not.
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Get this: The SOED says

though: (adverb and conjunction) an adversative particle expressing that relation of two opposed facts in which the one is indequate to prevent the other, and therefore both concur, contrary to what might be expected.

although: concatenation of all + though

They mean the same, although although sounds better to me, though on second thoughts, maybe not.
Would you say that "although" is more formal?
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Old January 30, 2010, 11:48 AM
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Would you say that "although" is more formal?
No - I can't see any difference. Although when arguing or thinking aloud, I would always use although, somehow more intensive:

Yes, I take your point, although I don't see why ....

or maybe just habit.
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Old January 30, 2010, 11:53 AM
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I'll try to use "although", "though" I always use "though".
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Old January 30, 2010, 01:55 PM
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I haven't seen "though" used much at the start of a subordinate sentence. I've usually seen "although" at the start of a formal sentence and "though" at the end of an informal one... but then again, I mostly deal with many non-native English speakers.
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Old January 30, 2010, 02:17 PM
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I'll try to use "although", "though" I always use "though".
You will be correct at the beginning of a sentence, although see below:

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I haven't seen "though" used much at the start of a subordinate sentence. I've usually seen "although" at the start of a formal sentence and "though" at the end of an informal one... but then again, I mostly deal with many non-native English speakers.
Actually, you are quite correct, there is a difference, and I noticed it myself ten minutes ago when posting on another forum. If you end a sentence with it, it is always though. At the start of the sentence it can be though, although it is usually although.

Although your argument has merits, I still think you are wrong.
Though your argument has merits, I still think you are wrong.
Well, your argument has some merits, but I still think you're wrong, though.
Well, your argument has some merits, though I still think you're wrong.
Well, your argument has some merits, although I still think you're wrong.
Well, your argument has some merits, but I still think you're wrong, although.
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Old January 30, 2010, 05:45 PM
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@Perikles: Thank you! I'll learn the use of both.
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Hi Perikles,

Thankyou very much indeed for your help. I can get back to my homework now.

Hey there Irmamar!!!

How are you??? Hope you are well! Thanks for checking my question.

Thankyou very much Bob!!!
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I'm glad to hear from you again.
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