Ya Tu Sabes?

[ers074]

What is the meaning of the phrase "ya tu sabes" Is it slang/ street talk or is it appropriate to say to friends, family, teachers etc.

[Tomisimo]

¿Cuál es la frase?

Edit: Disculpa, la frase debe ser el mismo título del hilo: "Ya Tu Sabes". Creo que esta frase se traduce "You already know (how to do it)", y sería apropiada para usar con la mayoría de la gente, aunque debes usar "usted" en lugar de "tu" cuando sea necesario.

¡Bienvenido a Tomisimo!

[ers074]

Pues parece que ellos se dicen la frase mucho, y en inglés, "you already know" no es dicho mucho, entonces estaba preguntando si signifiqué algo más. Puedes decirme un frase donde seria dicho,

[irmamar]

Creo que "ya tú sabes" sería en alguna zona de Sudamérica. En España decimos "tú ya sabes", "ya sabes" o incluso "¿sabes?" (you already know or do you know). Pero muchas veces se usa como una muletilla (I don't know "muletilla" in English).

[brute]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Creo que "ya tú sabes" sería en alguna zona de Sudamérica. En España decimos "tú ya sabes", "ya sabes" o incluso "¿sabes?" (you already know or do you know). Pero muchas veces se usa como una muletilla (I don't know "muletilla" in English).

Well you know, its like a cliché isn´t it?
Its used just like in Spanish.
Ya sabes, Es una muletilla

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by brute

Well you know, its like a cliché isn´t it?
Its used just like in Spanish.
Ya sabes, Es una muletilla

So 'cliché' means 'muletilla'. It's a French word, I guess

[Rusty]

Filler words are used to fill gaps in our sentences, usually spoken while we're putting our thoughts together (and can annoy others). These are muletillas.

A cliché (from French) is a worn-out phrase (used too frequently). At times, the original meaning of the phrase is even lost because it's used so much.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Filler words are used to fill gaps in our sentences, usually spoken while we're putting our thoughts together (and can annoy others). These are muletillas.

A cliché (from French) is a worn-out phrase (used too frequently). At times, the original meaning of the phrase is even lost because it's used so much.

And what would be the English word for 'muletilla'?

We use a lot of "muletillas", but now that I read this, maybe they are clichés. For instance: ya sabes, ¿sabes?, ¿cómo te diría?, ¿me entiendes?, ¿sabes lo que quiero decir?, ¿vale?, no sé si me explico, bueno, etc. These sentences can be repeated several times in a conversation. An example:

Fuimos a comer a aquel restaurante, ¿sabes? Comimos muy bien, ¿sabes? Además, el camarero, ¿sabes?, fue muy atento con nosotros.

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

And what would be the English word for 'muletilla'?

We use a lot of "muletillas", but now that I read this, maybe they are clichés. For instance: ya sabes, ¿sabes?, ¿cómo te diría?, ¿me entiendes?, ¿sabes lo que quiero decir?, ¿vale?, no sé si me explico, bueno, etc. These sentences can be repeated several times in a conversation. An example:

Fuimos a comer a aquel restaurante, ¿sabes? Comimos muy bien, ¿sabes? Además, el camarero, ¿sabes?, fue muy atento con nosotros.

muletilla = filler, filler word, filler sound.
cliché = refrán o proverbio tan sobreusado que ha perdido su significado e impacto.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Tomisimo

muletilla = filler, filler word, filler sound.
cliché = refrán o proverbio tan sobreusado que ha perdido su significado e impacto.

Could you give me some examples, if you don't mind? I'd like to see the differences.

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Could you give me some examples, if you don't mind? I'd like to see the differences.

Well, umm, sure, like, I guess I can, like, try to think of umm a few, like, examples of, like, fillers and stuff.

muletillas/fillers:

• um
• er
• ermm
• well
• mmmm
• ya know?
• like

clichés:

• Avoid X like the plague.
• He sold it lock, stock, and barrel.
• It's the real mccoy.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Tomisimo

Well, umm, sure, like, I guess I can, like, try to think of umm a few, like, examples of, like, fillers and stuff.

muletillas/fillers:

• um
• er
• ermm
• well
• mmmm
• ya know?
• like

clichés:

• Avoid X like the plague.
• He sold it lock, stock, and barrel.
• It's the real mccoy.

OK, thanks. I had never heard these clichés.

[poli]

Another word for cliché is platitude.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by poli

Another word for cliché is platitude.

Platitude! OK, thanks

[Rusty]

Filler words (gaps in our train of thought, verbally uttered):

I, uh, went to the park and, uh, then I went to the store.
Hmm, now let me see. I would guess that this, er (while finger is pointed at another shade) this is the right color for you.

Cliché (worn-out phrase):
Anyone can do it. It's easy as one, two, three. (Both sentences mean exactly the same thing, but the second is the worn-out phrase.)

[poli]

A cliché is not only a tired out word or phrase (oh my god that's totally awesome-- for instance), it's can be an idea, or plot.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Filler words (gaps in our train of thought, verbally uttered):

I, uh, went to the park and, uh, then I went to the store.
Hmm, now let me see. I would guess that this, er (while finger is pointed at another shade) this is the right color for you.

Cliché (worn-out phrase):
Anyone can do it. It's easy as one, two, three. (Both sentences mean exactly the same thing, but the second is the worn-out phrase.)

Does worn-out mean 'gastado' here?

[Rusty]

Yes, trite is another way to say worn out.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Yes, trite is another way to say worn out.

OK, I see it now. Thanks