Horchata

[poli]

This is a soft drink whose ingredients change greatly from one place to another. In Mexico and Southern California it's a refreshing drink made of cooked rice, vanilla and ice. In Colombia it's made of sesame seeds. In Italy orzata is made of almands. In Spain?

[pjt33]

In Valencia from chufa (tigernut).

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

It can also be made with rice flour or dried melon seeds, but I haven't tasted it with vanilla. We use cinnamon.

[chileno]

The very fisrt day in the US, I decided to go out and walk down the street. I found a Salvadorian place that said they sold "horchata". In Chile, we know the Italian "orchata" so I ordered a glass of it. Little did I know... :-)

[poli]

Dried melon seeds sounds interesting. Good Mexican food is really sophisticated. That's right Angela, cinnamon. I forgot cinnamon. I made it with rice, cinnamon and vanilla extract when a vegan rice pudding experiment of mine wasn't successful. I threw it in the blender with ice and rice milk. It was pretty good

Hernan, did you like the Salvadorian version?

[Elaina]

Well, I think there are two dishes being described here.

Horchata - made with raw rice that is soaked until tender and placed in the blender with cinnamon, sweetened milk (condensed milk) some vanilla, strained and cooled with ice and tastes quite yummy

BUT

Arroz con leche - made with cooked rice cinnamon, milk and very similar ingredients. This can be eaten hot or cold.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by poli

Hernan, did you like the Salvadorian version?

Not at all, in those days anyway. Now I can take it any day. :-)

I miss the almond orchata, though. I would make An orchata frappe with orchata, milk and crushed ice.

[poli]

Hernan, I think you can get orazata syrup in Italian specialty food stores and definitely on-line. What, no comment on that hochata salvadoreña? You are a diplomat.

Yes Elaina there is a big difference between arroz con leche and Mexican horchata, but I turned a failed 'healthy" arroz con leche experiment into a passable refreshing horchata through the miracle if ice, rice milk, and an osterizer. I just put it on medium and it did all the work.

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

@Poli: ¡Genial! A mí no se me hubiera ocurrido, pero qué bueno que funcionó.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by chileno

Not at all, in those days anyway. Now I can take it any day. :-)

I miss the almond orchata, though. I would make An orchata frappe with orchata, milk and crushed ice.

Originally Posted by poli

Hernan, I think you can get orazata syrup in Italian specialty food stores and definitely on-line. What, no comment on that hochata salvadoreña? You are a diplomat.

Not so much of a diplomat, I guess you missed my answer...

Yes, I guess I'll have to find me an Italian store and see. Thanks for the idea!

[irmamar]

I had never thought there could be "horchata" made of another ingredients instead of "chufa".

[sosia]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I had never thought there could be "horchata" made of another ingredients instead of "chufa".

same for me.... horchata= chufa (tigernut)

saludos

[poli]

That's why I brought the subject up. I think it's really interesting that it varies so much.

[Elaina]

Poli,

Estoy de acuerdo con Angelica........tu idea fue genial y también me da gusto que haya funcionado.

[CrOtALiTo]

The Horchata is a traditional drink made with milk and coco's cream.
Here in Mexico it's druks a lot of for people in the restaurants more in Merida city where it's a traditional drink created, I believe for the mayans.

[irmamar]

I don't know if your "horchata" was created by Mayans, but the word "horchata" comes from Latin "hordeata", and it was a kind of drink with barley (hordeum = cebada, barley).

[pjt33]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I don't know if your "horchata" was created by Mayans, but the word "horchata" comes from Latin "hordeata", and it was a kind of drink with barley (hordeum = cebada, barley).

No es la etimología que enseñan aquí, pero ya tenía mis dudas...

(Aquí dicen que el rey Jaime I, cuando vino a reconquistar Valencia, se paró en Alboraia y una chica le ofreció una bebida. Tomó un sorbo y declaró «Aquest és or, xata!»)

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I don't know if your "horchata" was created by Mayans, but the word "horchata" comes from Latin "hordeata", and it was a kind of drink with barley (hordeum = cebada, barley).

Cebada

I didn't know that the Horchata took Cebada in the same drink.
Because here the Horchata is prepared with milk and coco's cream.
Also if you go to a store, you will can the Horchata in a packing.

Here the Cebada is like a soda in the South and I believe that in the North too.
But well since I have life in this world never I have drunk Horchata with cebada, really I don't imagine me that with prepared with Cebada and I haven't idea of as I can it taste.

But well in each people there're diversity.
In the tasty and taste there're severals opinions.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by pjt33

No es la etimología que enseñan aquí, pero ya tenía mis dudas...

(Aquí dicen que el rey Jaime I, cuando vino a reconquistar Valencia, se paró en Alboraia y una chica le ofreció una bebida. Tomó un sorbo y declaró «Aquest és or, xata!»)

Sí, ya conocía esa leyenda, pero nunca me la he creído mucho.

Y la horchata, como las naranjas, de Valencia.

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

Cebada

I didn't know that the Horchata took Cebada in the same drink.
Because here the Horchata is prepared with milk and coco's cream.
Also if you go to a store, you will can the Horchata in a packing.

Here the Cebada is like a soda in the South and I believe that in the North too.
But well since I have life in this world never I have drunk Horchata with cebada, really I don't imagine me that with prepared with Cebada and I haven't idea of as I can it taste.

But well in each people there're diversity.
In the tasty and taste there're severals opinions.

I said that the origin of the word was a drink made with cebada, barley, but I think nobody makes horchata with barley nowadays. Spanish horchata is made with tigernuts (chufas), sugar and water. We don't use neither milk nor coconut (para mí eso sería un batido de coco).

Beer is made with barley, so you can imagine what kind of taste it had in Roman times.

[poli]

Sabía que este hilo iba crear contraversia. (sorry Sosia)
Ahora aprendí que en el golfo de Mexico la horchata se prepara con coco.

Si el significado original se refiere a cebada, entonces la receta mexicana con arroz es más clásica porque arroz y cebaba son granos.Que viva Mexico. En Colombia hace avena fria, pero alli pide avena fria si quieres avena fria. Que viva Colombia. Si pides horchata le dan una bebida de ajonjolí algo parecido a la chufa imagino. Que viva España.