Can someone translate these lyrics?

[ItsThaMonsta]

Thanks in advance... song by marc anthony... tan solo palabras.

Créeme que no existen otras vidas

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[Tomisimo]

Hi ItsThaMonsta,

For legal reasons, you can't post copyrighted material, including song lyrics, here. If you want to translate the lyrics yourself, and you are having problems with specific parts, you can ask for help and post a small snippet of the song (a few lines), since that would be considered fair use.

[ItsThaMonsta]

Originally Posted by Tomisimo

Hi ItsThaMonsta,

For legal reasons, you can't post copyrighted material, including song lyrics, here. If you want to translate the lyrics yourself, and you are having problems with specific parts, you can ask for help and post a small snippet of the song (a few lines), since that would be considered fair use.

Understandable... But I think I have this song figured. And after listening to it a ton of times I can recite it without thinking about what im saying in english... and its feeling natural.. I have done this with about 3 songs and its now easier for me to "hear" other songs, even if a lot of the words used having meaning that I dont know.... This music stuff is working.

[Tomisimo]

That's good. Music can definitely help you learn language!

[ItsThaMonsta]

Actually I do have a question on a part that was the hardest for me to translate.

Que se va se va, la vida se te va
entre suenos y promesas y palabras, palabras

The second line is easy to translate but I added it just in case it links to the first. But I take this as "that goes and goes, the life goes to you... between dreams and promises and words, words.

Anyone want to make a better assertion of it?

[pjt33]

That it goes, it goes, your life passes you by.

The closest to a literal translation of "La vida se te va" is "Your life goes". (¿Alguien quiere comentar si es dativo posesivo o dativo ético?)

[irmamar]

"Te" es objeto indirecto.

"Se" de "irse" es un morfema de valor aspectual incoativo que aparece con verbos intransitivos con sentido de movimiento.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

"Te" es objeto indirecto.

"Se" de "irse" es un morfema de valor aspectual incoativo que aparece con verbos intransitivos con sentido de movimiento.

Please don't think I'm challenging your Spanish grammar , but why is 'te' an indirect object? I would have said it was an ethic dative.

As for 'se' - that is exactly what I would have said.

[irmamar]

Se me va la vida a mí.
Se te va la vida a ti.
Se le va la vida a él.
etc.

"Te", indirect object, pronoun with the possibility of duplication.

An ethic dative is not a part of the verb, it is compatible with almost all the verbs and it is possible to be added to any clause. There is only the clitic (? forma clítica) form and there can't be duplication:

El niño no me come (the child does not eat)
¿El niño no me come a mí? That's not possible

And I'm sure you'd have said the same (if you were Spanish, of course)

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Se me va la vida a mí.
Se te va la vida a ti.
Se le va la vida a él.
etc.

"Te", indirect object, pronoun with the possibility of duplication.

An ethic dative is not a part of the verb, it is compatible with almost all the verbs and it is possible to be added to any clause. There is only the clitic (? forma clítica) form and there can't be duplication:

El niño no me come (the child does not eat)
¿El niño no me come a mí? That's not possible

And I'm sure you'd have said the same (if you were Spanish, of course)

Thanks, Irma, a comprehensive answer as always. I wonder whether the concept of indirect object is different in Spanish and English, but I can see the difference between that and an ethic dative. (I think.)

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Thanks, Irma, a comprehensive answer as always. I wonder whether the concept of indirect object is different in Spanish and English, but I can see the difference between that and an ethic dative. (I think.)

Well, I think that this sentence has different structure in English and in Spanish:

Your life goes.
La vida se te va (a ti).

If I said: "la vida va", I wouldn't say the same, but: "Life goes".

I don't think the concept is different, but we must realize that the structure of a sentence can be different in other languages.