Hacer o estar for time period?

[hola]

it's already been more than 3 months and you haven't given me my raise
ya ha estado más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hizo más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hace más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado

i think the verb is hacer not estar

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

Originally Posted by hola

it's already been more than 3 months and you haven't given me my raise
ya ha estado más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
You could say "Ya he estado trabajando más de tres meses y no me has aumentado el salario/sueldo".
ya hizo más que de 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hace más que de 3 meses y no me has aumentado

i think the verb is hacer not estar

Right, hola, the right verb is "hacer".


I tend to prefer a more explicit sentence and say "no me has aumentado el salario/sueldo".

But when using the substantive "aumento", can be easily understood you're talking about your salary.

Ya hace más de tres meses y no me has dado mi aumento.


As for "hizo", it's not exactly incorrect, but the usual sentence is with "hace".

However, you can use past tense by saying "ya pasaron más de tres meses y no me has dado el aumento".

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by hola

it's already been more than 3 months and you haven't given me my raise
ya ha estado más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hizo más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hace más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado

i think the verb is hacer not estar

In your post the that I can understand of the post is ( He estado listo por mas de tres meses y aun no me alcanzado mi meta.

I hope this commentary can help you.

[hola]

Angelica y hE estado instead of hA estado?
we r talking about the period of time i 've been there
that would fall into the noun & 3rd person category
remember, i wanna say ITS been 3 months
im not directly saying i have been there 3 months
yo he estado aqui 3 meses= i have been here 3 months
that's y i said "ya HA estado más que tres meses....."
it's been 3 months
so y hE instead of hA
& also y "de" instead of "que"????
más que=more than
so if i strictly wanna say "it's been more than 3 months" what would i say?
hope u can answer both questions
& would it still be estar over hacer?

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

Your intuition is right. When talking exclusively about a period of time, "hacer tiempo" is the standard construction.

I used "(yo) he estado" to mark a difference between "hacer" and "estar" to express a similar idea.

Strictly saying "it's been more than 3 months" would be "hace más de tres meses".

By the way, I have been just reminded that one can use also "ser" (not "estar"), as an alternative: "Ya son más de tres meses que no me das un aumento". This wouldn't be my first choice though.


Más que ≠ más de:

I had never thought about the difference between them and I will let someone else do the technical description, but here are some examples using both. Maybe they'll give you a general idea about the difference...

Me gusta más el tequila que la cerveza, pero nunca tomo más de una copa.
I like tequila more than beer, but I never drink more than one glass.

Tu jardín tiene más árboles que el mío. Debes tener más de veinte.
Your garden has more trees than mine. You must have more than twenty.

Quiero a Juan más que a ti, pero te quiero más de lo que crees.
I love Juan more than you, but I love you more than you think.


I hope I didn't make it more confusing.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar

Más que ≠ más de:

Quiero a Juan más que a ti, pero te quiero más de lo que crees.
I love Juan more than you, but I love you more than you think.

So más que is an exact comparative: I love X more than (I love) Y but más de is not.

By the way, I find the expression 'I love Juan more than you' ambiguous in English, but not in Spanish. It could mean
I love Juan more than (I love) you
or
I love Juan more than you (love Juan)

Because you can be nominative or accusative.

[irmamar]

So, you could say: more than you do, couldn't you?

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

So, you could say: more than you do, couldn't you?

Yes: I love Juan more than you do.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Yes: I love Juan more than you do.

I didn't know you loved Juan.

Well, joking apart, I wanted to be sure. Y si el maestro lo dice, será verdad

Thanks

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

@Perikles: I don't know which one is an exact comparative. I haven't been able to isolate a rule yet, thinking about it, "más de" is often followed by a quantity.


--Esperé al médico más de dos horas. (I waited for the doctor for more than two hours.)
--Esperaste menos que yo. (You waited less [time] than me.)



@Irma: Juan is a good loved friend... he helps in many examples.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Y si el maestro lo dice, será verdad

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar

@Perikles: I don't know which one is an exact comparative. I haven't been able to isolate a rule yet, thinking about it, "más de" is often followed by a quantity.

My grammar book says más que is used in what it calls 'comparisons of inequality' by which it means 'X is bigger than Y', where both are measured, with a specific difference. That is what I called an exact comparative.

It then goes on to say that más de is used when

1) comparisons are made with an element in another clause, where it will be followed by a pronoun plus que:

Es más rápida de lo que yo pensaba
Había menos personas de las que habíamos invitado

2) Comparisons involving numerals

Faltan menos de tres semanas para la Navidad

I think this second condition involving numerals would include your example of waiting more than two hours at the doctor's, i.e. the second element is not something which has been measured.

What do you think?

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

My grammar book says más que is used in what it calls 'comparisons of inequality' by which it means 'X is bigger than Y', where both are measured, with a specific difference. That is what I called an exact comparative.

It then goes on to say that más de is used when

1) comparisons are made with an element in another clause, where it will be followed by a pronoun plus que:

Es más rápida de lo que yo pensaba
Había menos personas de las que habíamos invitado

2) Comparisons involving numerals

Faltan menos de tres semanas para la Navidad

I think this second condition involving numerals would include your example of waiting more than two hours at the doctor's, i.e. the second element is not something which has been measured.

What do you think?

We make another distinction between comparative sentences: comparativas propias y relativas:

- Comparativas propias: with "QUE":

Juan es mayor que Pedro.
Este libro es mejor que el otro.

- Comparativas relativas: with DE + artículo + QUE:

Estas manzanas son peores de lo que dijiste.
Esta novela es menos interesante de lo que pensaba.

About "más de", traditional grammar has always said that sentences with "más/menos de" are comparatives, but some authors say that they're not comparative, since they can't be included either between the "comparativas propias" or "comparativas relativas". I don't have opinion about it yet. (luckily I didn't have a sentence like this in my last Spanish exam ).

[Perikles]

I think that's what I almost said above under case 1)

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

I think that's what I almost said above under case 1)

Yes, you're right, almost