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Old February 15, 2009, 08:58 PM
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hmmm be careful on some of these, they mean the same, what happens is in English they *use* more a meaning than the other but both means the same.

Topic is ONE! I got one! :-)

I know about topic in spanish, and I would have sworn that topico as theme was ok in spanish! :-)


About carpet. And carpeta. In chile means a manila folder. and that's it. when somebody speaks spanglish, then is when carpeta comes out... :/

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"Tópico" is one of those English words that have made their way somehow into the everyday language... but still not accepted with the "topic" meaning.

You're right about "carpeta". It has more than one meaning... It's obviously not an exhaustive list.
*putting a paperbag on*

As for words with more than one meaning, well, I suppose the idea of identifying false cognates is not to use them interchangeably if they can lead to an amphibology.
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• carpet ("alfombra") = floor covering ≠ carpeta = table cover
"Carpeta" - en inglés: "table cloth"? If so ... that's kind of cool. (¿Cómo se dice "cool" en español?)
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Old February 15, 2009, 10:50 PM
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You're welcome!

"Tópico" is one of those English words that have made their way somehow into the everyday language... but still not accepted with the "topic" meaning.

You're right about "carpeta". It has more than one meaning... It's obviously not an exhaustive list.
*putting a paperbag on*

As for words with more than one meaning, well, I suppose the idea of identifying false cognates is not to use them interchangeably if they can lead to an amphibology.
Well, if the meaning in both language comes from latin, meaning the same thing(s), but in one language a meaning is used exclusively and not the others. What would you call that?


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Old February 16, 2009, 10:54 AM
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@laepelba: "tablecloth" = "el mantel"

(and one more false cognate for the collection: mantel in English ≠ mantel in Spanish)

"Carpeta" (in this sense) is a smaller cover than a tablecloth, normally decorative, usually knitted, crocheted or embroidered.


@Chileno: These are very similar words in both languages, that ofthen have the same etymologies and related meanings... but languages are independent institutions and obviously they cannot evolve the same way in two different cultures. If it weren't so, there wouldn't be false cognates between Spanish and French or between Spanish and Italian, etc. You see?
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@laepelba: "tablecloth" = "el mantel"

(and one more false cognate for the collection: mantel in English ≠ mantel in Spanish)

"Carpeta" (in this sense) is a smaller cover than a tablecloth, normally decorative, usually knitted, crocheted or embroidered.
Trying to get a mental picture of una carpeta... So, like a table runner? (My mom always has a narrow decorative piece of cloth running the length of her dining room table.) That kind of thing?
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Yes, that kind of ornaments... and the smaller cloths you put over smaller tables and other furniture (almost napkin size).
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Ah - like this ...
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@laepelba: "tablecloth" = "el mantel"

(and one more false cognate for the collection: mantel in English ≠ mantel in Spanish)
What would that be? :^)

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@Chileno: These are very similar words in both languages, that often have the same etymologies and related meanings... but languages are independent institutions and obviously they cannot evolve the same way in two different cultures. If it weren't so, there wouldn't be false cognates between Spanish and French or between Spanish and Italian, etc. You see?
I understand that, however, when you see both definitions as being the same almost point by point (did you like that one?)

What do I have to think?

Rusty, and David. Can you adventure any comment on this?


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Old February 16, 2009, 06:19 PM
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In that case, they are not false cognates, are they?

(And did I like it)
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In that case, they are not false cognates, are they?
That's what I've been saying all along. Then why do/did you list them as being false? Ah? ah? aaaaaaaaah?

(And did I like it) [/quote]

because of the big grin I assume you liked it. :-)

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