Quedar

[laepelba]

Thanks, and I will, Poli. But sometimes it is almost more helpful to get input from native English-speakers who are also fluent in Spanish (like you and Rusty and David and Perikles and pjt.....) because you know how my ear hears things and have gone through learning the language from the position of an English speaker.... Cheers!!

Edit: we cross posted, pjt - THANKS! I like that a lot!! :)

[chileno]

Then all was said already. I came back too late. :)

[JPablo]

Well, you can always say something in addition to everything else... ;) :)
Moliner gives no less than 17 definitions for "quedar" and the one that seems to apply better to the original post is
"Resultar en cierta situación o estado por efecto de alguna acción propia o ajena o algún suceso: ‘Ha quedado en ridículo. El trabajo ha quedado perfecto. Quedó cojo de resultas del accidente’.

Here are some more examples, for your benefit and practice...

el coche ha quedado como nuevo = the car is as good as new (now)

algunas fotos quedaron mal = some of the photos came out badly

ha quedado precioso pintado de blanco = it looks beautiful painted white

ha quedado acordado que … = it has been agreed that …

y que esto quede bien claro = and I want to make this quite clear

¿cómo quedó la cosa? ¿quién tenía razón? = what happened in the end? who was right?

¿dónde quedamos la clase pasada? = where did we get (up) to in the last class?

¿Queda ahora más claro? ;) :) = (Does it become now clearer?)

[laepelba]

Well, you can always say something in addition to everything else... ;) :)
Moliner gives no less than 17 definitions for "quedar" and the one that seems to apply better to the original post is
"Resultar en cierta situación o estado por efecto de alguna acción propia o ajena o algún suceso: ‘Ha quedado en ridículo. El trabajo ha quedado perfecto. Quedó cojo de resultas del accidente’.

That does make sense in this case! Do you have Moliner in hard copy or do you use an online version?

Here are some more examples, for your benefit and practice...

el coche ha quedado como nuevo = the car is as good as new (now)

algunas fotos quedaron mal = some of the photos came out badly

ha quedado precioso pintado de blanco = it looks beautiful painted white

ha quedado acordado que … = it has been agreed that …

y que esto quede bien claro = and I want to make this quite clear

¿cómo quedó la cosa? ¿quién tenía razón? = what happened in the end? who was right?

¿dónde quedamos la clase pasada? = where did we get (up) to in the last class?

¿Queda ahora más claro? ;) :) = (Does it become now clearer?)

These examples are great - thanks so much, JPablo - this is exactly what I was looking for! :)

[JPablo]

You're welcome! :)

I used to have a hard-copy Moliner and I must have misplaced somewhere... Nowadays I am using now a CD ROM I got as a gift few years ago. (I'd just written "CD room" due to my inconscious-preconscious-obnoxious brain Made in Spain... :rolleyes:)

The publisher is Gredos, S.A. (2nd Edition) (c) 2001. I tried to find a version on-line, but haven't been successful. There are many sites regarding the dictionary, though.

(I particularly like it for its many examples of real usage, and also even if it is not a Thesaurus, it has quite a number of synonyms, and idiomatic expressions, that are very helpful when you are translating... or writing...)

[laepelba]

Okay ... I've heard good things about the Moliner before. I have a Larousse and an RAE in hard copy ... but would love to find an online searchable Moliner.......

[JPablo]

Hey, look. I did a search and found it.
(It is a bit weird on this site, how you find the words... but there you have it!)
http://www.diclib.com/cgi-bin/d1.cgi?l=en&base=moliner&page=showid&id=64669

(Thank you for asking me again... as otherwise I would not have find it...) :thumbsup: :)

[laepelba]

VERY cool! Thanks!! :)

[JPablo]

You're welcome! :)