Grotesque / grotesco - Page 2

But so was The Elephant Man...I know I'm being stubborn here, but I read a biography a long time ago and he was such a sweet man and most people were so mean to him...
Take care.

I know that using the word grotesque could confuse someone to think that I also mean other bad things but I don't.

I was very saddened when I watched the movie and realized how bad he had it.

I still think he was grotesque looking but a very nice, sweet guy. Is this like an oxymoron?

:?:

Now I understand what you mean. And I do agree.:)

I think this is a very politically correct explanation. I don't think it was needded, as it can be easily understood that we are talking about words, and that you don't have anything against the Elephant man.

What I guess from your point of view about the grotesque is that what makes something grotesque is a comparision between two things, in the case you meant, the human condition and the human elephant condition. I mean, isn't grotesque that gods (from a pagan point of view) play with their creatures and allow malformation beside beauty? Did I catch your idea?
Thanks a lot for your help!

Alfonso,
Comparación is comparison, there is no i in there.;)

Grotesque is anything large and ungamely whether they are innocent victims of disease like the elephant man, self-inflicted 500 pound overeaters or even huge awkward-looking buildings designed by untalented architects.

Incidentally did all this grotesque discourse help you romantically as you
thought it might?

I agree with this one.

Yes, but, isn't grotesque that God (from a monotheist point of view) plays with her (maybe It's female) creatures and allows malformation besides beauty?

Not for the moment. I'll have to work a little harder... :rolleyes:

Bueno, la naturaleza es la más perfecta maquina que es, pero es sin merced. ¿No obstante, sin lo feo como vamos a saber lo bello?
Los contrastes nos enriquecimos, y no solo los feos y grotescos
son victimas del proceso de la naturaleza.

Poli, What do you think about the word Grotesco.?

Do you imagine something Grotesque in your life.?

What do you consider grotesque, animal, person, thing.?

Are you meaning that la fealdad goes along with lo grotesco? If yes, then, is la fealdad and lo grotesco the same thing?
Thanks for you help. Maybe my love life will not improve, but I'm talking about ugliness with a New Yorker who should know something about the subject. :rolleyes:

Claro que no. La fealdad y lo grotesco son distintos. Lo grotesco es cualquiera cosa grande y malformado literadamente o en metáfora. Si eso es lo que la fealdad, sinónimos pero a mi me parece que fealdad incluye
muchas más cosas como el prejudicio (como una person que dice ciudad es fea sin conocerla por ejemplo:yuck: )

Hey Poli, I do know NY, and I love it. ;) I meant that YOU should know something about ugliness... :rolleyes:

Yes, I certainly do. There's a phrase "stop and smell the roses". The sad truth is that if you take the time to stop and smell the roses, you may smell something a less pleasant as well. That's nature.;)

I'm not sure if there is a cultural misunderstanding here. Maybe we don't share the same sense of humour. I'm really interested in this kind of subjects, although I know it can be boring... Anyway, I tried to tell you that you are ugly (just kidding ;). I imagine you are really ugly). But you don't react! You start talking about nature and towns? Are we talking about the same thing? Is my English so poor that I couldn't convey this? Or, is it that you are really ugly and don't mind about it?
:thinking:

No, your mordent humor translates. I interpreted it incorrectly. A lot of times I'm reading quickly --furvently bouncing from the forum to work duties when someone enters my office interrupting my concentration.

PS I changed you last sentence because it didn't make sense, but I embellished your joke in the last sentence making it even fleshier than it was.

I agree with you Poli.......without ugly we wouldn't be able to appreciate beauty.

But do we see beauty where society wants us to see beauty?

You have been asking good questions Elaina. I think that society plays
a role in how we see beauty (as in fashion), but society only has a small role. There are lots of factors.

Alfonso, Poli didn't get your joke because he's real handsome and it never crossed his mind you could be talking about him. Have you already forgotten he looks like George Clooney?
Poli, Elaina, I agree with you. But I would like to add that I think beauty is almost totally subjective. I'm sure Rusty can guide everybody to the idiom page to find an expression to illustrate this:Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. And if it's not there yet, it will be in a few hours. That's how efficient he is.(Here I go again :pelota::pelota:)