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¿Helado o hielo? - Page 2


laepelba March 17, 2009 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 28933)
:D

Excellent my friend!

How abouth this:

Do you wanna drink it here or "take it in" with you. (wear it) :)

Difficult to translate because a joke that you have to explain, it ain't a joke. :cool:

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 28934)
In chile we speak everything little....agüita, quesito, yelito... :whistling:

I am sorry for being this bad...:coffeebreak:

You're right - a joke loses it's "funny" if it is explained. :)

You know how I feel about the diminutives. I'm still trying to be okay with the sound of them.

Another question that I have about them is this: If someone writes something with a diminutive ending, I am having a GREAT difficulty figuring out what the word is WITHOUT the diminutive ending so that I can look up the meaning. For example, from your words given in the example, "yelito". So I get rid of "-ito" and it becomes ... what? Yele? Yelo? Neither of those words are in the Tomisimo dictionary. How do I figure out what word the diminutive stands for????

chileno March 17, 2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 28939)
You're right - a joke loses it's "funny" if it is explained. :)

You know how I feel about the diminutives. I'm still trying to be okay with the sound of them.

Another question that I have about them is this: If someone writes something with a diminutive ending, I am having a GREAT difficulty figuring out what the word is WITHOUT the diminutive ending so that I can look up the meaning. For example, from your words given in the example, "yelito". So I get rid of "-ito" and it becomes ... what? Yele? Yelo? Neither of those words are in the Tomisimo dictionary. How do I figure out what word the diminutive stands for????

Aha! :-)

that was a little joke for Angelique ( I feel french today) :-)

The word hielo gets to be pronounced as "géhl-awe" your phonetics now. :-)

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 17, 2009 11:30 AM

@Hernán: so we do, but mixing many diminutives in one sentence is not socially accepted. So "agüita" and "yelitos" don't fit together. ;)

CrOtALiTo March 17, 2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 28881)
Thanks, Luis - very helpful! :) I'm sure it would be funnier if I said "Por favor me trae agua sin vaso." :D

Yes.

chileno March 17, 2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 28984)
@Hernán: so we do, but mixing many diminutives in one sentence is not socially accepted. So "agüita" and "yelitos" don't fit together. ;)

Oh, you would die laughing at us then. Like I mentioned before, everything is in diminutive that even to us is funny, and we do it on purpose, just to laugh at ourselves! :D

laepelba March 17, 2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 28984)
@Hernán: so we do, but mixing many diminutives in one sentence is not socially accepted. So "agüita" and "yelitos" don't fit together. ;)

If it's socially unacceptable, then does that mean that "el mundito de Luanita" is "out"? :(

By the way - did you see the conversation in a different thread about the differences between British English and American English? It's the one about "andar o caminar"....

chileno March 17, 2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 29001)
If it's socially unacceptable, then does that mean that "el mundito de Luanita" is "out"? :(

No, it ain't. Not in my world. :D

AngelicaDeAlquezar March 17, 2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 29001)
If it's socially unacceptable, then does that mean that "el mundito de Luanita" is "out"? :(

Oh no... the use of many diminutives in one sentence sounds childish. But it has nothing to do with the use of them just for fun. A little exaggeration on their use can be also nice for an affectionate expression... like in this case. ;)



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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 29001)
By the way - did you see the conversation in a different thread about the differences between British English and American English? It's the one about "andar o caminar"....

Yes, I've been following it. Rusty's comments are very interesting... I might take a closer look to some details. :rose:

Fazor March 18, 2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 28874)
'agua sin vaso'." Hilarious! I informed him that I certainly know enough Spanish to know NOT to say something that dumb. LOL!!

¡Me gusta! Necesito pelar a mi novia a pide 'agua sin vaso' cuando nosotros vamos al restaurante. :)

Rusty March 18, 2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazor (Post 29112)
¡Me gusta! Necesito pelar a mi novia a pide 'agua sin vaso' cuando nosotros vamos al restaurante. :)

Necesitas tomarle el pelo a tu novia. Estoy seguro de que ella no aguantará lo de pelarla.
:eek::blackeye:

Fazor March 18, 2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 29113)
Necesitas tomarle el pelo a tu novia. Estoy seguro de que ella no aguantará lo de pelarla.
:eek::blackeye:

Lo siento, no compredo.

lee ying March 18, 2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sosia (Post 28849)
In Spain, you say "agua del tiempo", that is, not-freezed water.
Other option "agua sin hielos"
Saludos :D

Agua altiempo!!!:good::yuck:
sin hielo.....
un agua fresca.

Tomisimo March 18, 2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazor (Post 29112)
¡Me gusta! Necesito pelar a mi novia a pide 'agua sin vaso' cuando nosotros vamos al restaurante. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 29113)
Necesitas tomarle el pelo a tu novia. Estoy seguro de que ella no aguantará lo de pelarla.
:eek::blackeye:

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Originally Posted by Fazor (Post 29124)
Lo siento, no compredo.

In Mexican slang, (and I don't know about elsewhere), "pelar" can be used as a synonym for "to pay attention to".

Entré y nadie me peló. = I came in and nobody even noticed.
No la peles. = Just ignore her.

lee ying March 18, 2009 07:51 PM

tomar el pelo, take my feet !!
it isn´t like into spanish,
she took my hair: ella me tomó el pelo,
but in english , I think it is different, she took me feet!!
Am I right? *_*

Rusty March 18, 2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo (Post 29133)
In Mexican slang, (and I don't know about elsewhere), "pelar" can be used as a synonym for "to pay attention to".

Entré y nadie me peló. = I came in and nobody even noticed.
No la peles. = Just ignore her.

I've never heard this before. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by lee ying (Post 29135)
tomar el pelo, take my feet !!
it isn´t like into spanish,
she took my hair: ella me tomó el pelo,
but in english , I think it is different, she took me feet!!
Am I right? *_*

Have a look at the link in the post. It takes you to the meaning of the phrase in English.

@Fazor, I was correcting your use of pelar. I believe you meant 'pull her leg' and I provided you with the idiomatic expression (and a link to it).

pelar = to peel, strip the skin off, pluck the feathers off, strip

lee ying March 18, 2009 07:58 PM

ohh!!! yes, you´re right!!!! ok anyway thanks*:) (¨*_*¨)

Tomisimo March 18, 2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 29138)
I've never heard this before. Thanks!

Have a look at the link in the post. It takes you to the meaning of the phrase in English.

@Fazor, I was correcting your use of pelar. I believe you meant 'pull her leg' and I provided you with the idiomatic expression (and a link to it).

pelar = to peel, strip the skin off, pluck the feathers off, strip

Right. Before anyone tries the slang usage I mentioned, they should be well aware of the literal meaning and the fact that they could easily be misunderstood.

chileno March 18, 2009 08:21 PM

pelar en chile means to gossip. To talk about someone, at his/her back.

Fazor March 18, 2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 29138)
pelar = to peel, strip the skin off, pluck the feathers off, strip

I was confused by pelar (there were probably a half-dozen + words that come up when you search for "trick" in the dictionary). But I saw that under "pelar" they had peel, skin, etc.

So I wasn't sure if pelar was an idiom or what. Now I know. :)

chileno March 18, 2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazor (Post 29147)
I was confused by pelar (there were probably a half-dozen + words that come up when you search for "trick" in the dictionary). But I saw that under "pelar" they had peel, skin, etc.

So I wasn't sure if pelar was an idiom or what. Now I know. :)

It just depends on how you use it. :)


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