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Carne - Page 2


irmamar September 10, 2009 03:01 AM

En España "carne" es todo tipo de carne, especificando: carne roja (de los mamíferos y la de caza, aunque sean aves) y carne blanca (la de aves y la del conejo). La carne del cerdo y del cordero, cuando son lechales, se considera carne blanca; cuando son adultos se considera roja. El pescado no se considera carne.

Los católicos, durante la Cuaresma, no podemos comer carne los viernes (ni ternera, ni cordero, ni aves, ni conejo, ni cerdo, etc.). Pero sí podemos comer pescado y huevos (jamón tampoco). Bueno, eso los que sigan la Cuaresma, pero eso es otro cantar. :)

Los vegetarianos no comen carne, pero algunos sí comen pescado alguna vez por la necesidad de proteínas (hay muchos tipos de vegetarianismo).
:)

ookami September 10, 2009 07:17 AM

Nice!, that's the way I like to be use the "carne" term. (¿el término carne?)

(pero las proteínas no solo están en la carne y eso de que no se pueden reemplazar es un mito creado para perpetuar la industria, esta comprobado que se lo puede hacer, solo que requiere más esfuerzo que el que una persona estaría dispuesta a hacer sino tiene algún motivo firme. Con esfuerzo me refiero a ser constante y hacer un hábito de ciertas conductas que hay que adoptar y que puede no ser facil.)

irmamar September 11, 2009 12:22 AM

I think "term" is good :thinking:

What happens if you go to a doctor and he tells you that you can only eat meat once a week? If you think that chicken or rabbit are not meat and you eat them everyday, that's not good for your health ;)

Sometimes, language is more important than we're able to think :)

Elaina September 11, 2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 50981)
I think "term" is good :thinking:

What happens if you go to a doctor and he tells you that you can only eat meat once a week? If you think that chicken or rabbit are not meat and you eat them everyday, that's not good for your health ;)

Sometimes, language is more important than we're able to think :)

Well to tell you the truth, it is a well known fact that red meat is not that good for you so if the doctor says you can eat it only once a week then you need to clarify. I have worked in the medical field for a long time and when the doctor says no meat, he really means no beef.

All in all, I can tell you that there is no comparison to a good T-bone steak with buttered mushrooms, sauteed onions w/jalapeño peppers, a glass of wine and some garlic bread...................once a year.....:worried:


mmmm, mmmm, mmmm,mmmm

:eek:

irmamar September 12, 2009 01:33 AM

Usually I'm a bit anemic and doctors tell me to eat meat, but they specify and say "carne roja" (here it is said "ternera") and liver :yuck:. If they told me to eat meat, carne, I'd eat chicken or rabbit, maybe I wouldn't eat ternera (young caw).

pjt33 September 12, 2009 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 51179)
Usually I'm a bit anemic and doctors tell me to eat meat, but they specify and say "carne roja" (here it is said "ternera") and liver :yuck:. If they told me to eat meat, carne, I'd eat chicken or rabbit, maybe I wouldn't eat ternera (young cow).

En España "ternera" es carne de vaca sin importar la edad, ¿no?

irmamar September 12, 2009 02:19 AM

Aquí las vacas se sacrifican muy jóvenes, de menos de un año, por eso se llama "ternera", porque no ha llegado a ser vaca. Aquí no nos gusta la carne de animales viejos. En Cataluña, donde yo vivo, se sacrifican aún más jóvenes, siete u ocho meses.

ookami September 12, 2009 07:22 AM

Claro, "ternera" porque es "más tierna". Aquí también todo es carne de ternera. (how can I say ternera in English?)

chileno September 12, 2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 51186)
En España "ternera" es carne de vaca sin importar la edad, ¿no?

Ternera/o means calf = veal.

ookami September 12, 2009 08:45 AM

So calf and veal are the same. Thanks chileno.

Rusty September 12, 2009 08:56 AM

Calf is the alive animal. Veal is the meat.

chileno September 12, 2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 51280)
Calf is the alive animal. Veal is the meat.

Right.

Although in Chile and I guess in other Spanish speaking countries you say you want to eat ternera, meaning veal, of course.

Jessica September 12, 2009 09:44 AM

we learned carne as meat and beef as carne de vaca.

Tomisimo September 12, 2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jchen (Post 51293)
we learned carne as meat and beef as carne de vaca.

Beef can also be res or carne de res.

hermit September 12, 2009 12:29 PM

hi ookami - calf meat = veal, and is always called veal.

hermit

irmamar September 14, 2009 03:18 AM

Plural: calves ;)

ookami September 14, 2009 06:58 AM

Thanks :)

ROBINDESBOIS September 17, 2009 03:12 AM

Well, interesting thread. Angelica and Irma explained very well the terminology. I think that the terms carne roja, carne blanca, pescado blanco, pescado azul, are mainly used in medical terms or in health books. The man in the street would use carne or pescado, and if you want to be more specific you say filete de ternera, trasero de pollo, muslos de pollo etcc. I think that to learn this vocabulary well it would be wise to open a new thread including all the vocabulary concerning different kinds of meat and the way is served either steak, chop , fillet etc.........

ookami September 17, 2009 07:15 AM

But the ordinary man in the street does not speak well enough.
Carne roja is a culinary term, so it's quite open to be use in a good medical book. But I'm sure you are right and it is use, more than nothing, in nutricional books.

I agree with the definition from RAE about "carne", it's quite long but I'm sure it will help.


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