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Robber - stealer - thief - burglar


ookami September 15, 2009 08:53 PM

Robber - stealer - thief - burglar
 
Which are the differences in the use of:
rober - stealer - thief - burglar - the ones I'm forgetting

Formal differences more than nothing, if they are slang or a costume usage please remark it.

Thanks.

chileno September 15, 2009 09:36 PM

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Tomisimo September 15, 2009 09:45 PM

They are fairly synonymous, but there are slight differences. Associated verbs in parenthesis.

robber — someone who steals by force, violence, or threat (to rob, to commit robbery)
thief — someone who steals secretly or stealthily (to commit theft)
stealer — someone who takes something that does not belong to them or that they don't have a right to take (to steal)
purloiner — someone who takes something wrongfully (to purloin)
pilferer — someone who steals secretly/stealthily in small amounts over time (to pilfer)
larcenist — (this is more of a legal term) someone who takes something unlawfully with the intention of depriving its rightful owner of it permanently (to commit larceny). There is also "grand larceny" which has a specific legal meaning.
shoplifter — someone who steals products on display in a store (to shoplift)
burglar — someone who enters a house/building at night without permission with the intent to commit a crime (to burgle, to commit burglary)

There are also other verbs that are synonymous with "to steal"— to lift, to borrow, to jack, to swipe, to nick.

chileno September 15, 2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo (Post 51893)
They are fairly synonymous, but there are slight differences. Associated verbs in parenthesis.

robber — someone who steals by force, violence, or threat (to rob, to commit robbery)
thief — someone who steals secretly or stealthily (to commit theft)
stealer — someone who takes something that does not belong to them or that they don't have a right to take (to steal)
purloiner — someone who takes something wrongfully (to purloin)
pilferer — someone who steals secretly/stealthily in small amounts over time (to pilfer)
larcenist — (this is more of a legal term) someone who takes something unlawfully with the intention of depriving its rightful owner of it permanently (to commit larceny). There is also "grand larceny" which has a specific legal meaning.
shoplifter — someone who steals products on display in a store (to shoplift)

There are also other verbs that are synonymous with "to steal"— to lift, to borrow, to jack, to swipe, to nick.

These last examples are slang, aren't they?

Tomisimo September 15, 2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 51894)
These last examples are slang, aren't they?

The verbs at the very end? Yes.

chileno September 15, 2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomisimo (Post 51895)
The verbs at the very end? Yes.

Just checking... :)

ookami September 15, 2009 10:03 PM

Thanks! now I understand.
And burglar? as synonym of stealer is right?

Tomisimo September 15, 2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ookami (Post 51898)
Thanks! now I understand.
And burglar? as synonym of stealer is right?

I was editing post #3 while Chileno was responding to it, and I added burglar there. :)

María José September 16, 2009 01:56 AM

Another one: a mugger: someone who steals by threatening or performing violence.

It's also important to notice the difference between to rob and to steal (often confused by Spanish-speaking people)
I was robbed
My purse was stolen

The bank was robbed
A lot of money was stolen

And one more I've just remembered: pickpocket (carterista in Spanish)

pjt33 September 16, 2009 02:32 AM

:eek: No puedo creer que "stealer" es una palabra en EEUUense. No está en mi diccionario Oxford ni en el Cambridge Advanced Learners' Dictionary, que suele ser una fuente maravillosa para diferencias entre RUense y EEUUense.

María José September 16, 2009 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 51907)
:eek: No puedo creer que "stealer" es una palabra en EEUUense. No está en mi diccionario Oxford ni en el Cambridge Advanced Learners' Dictionary, que suele ser una fuente maravillosa para diferencias entre RUense y EEUUense.

You've made me soooo happy! I was worried because I had never heard it before.:shh:

poli September 16, 2009 05:40 AM

I never heard of stealer either. Instead use robber or thief.
PS: I we forgot the word filch (to commit petty theft)
rip off
swipe
make a five finger discount
make off (as in Madoff--truth is stranger than fiction)
to pocket
to walk off with
there's more

chileno September 16, 2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by María José (Post 51904)
Another one: a mugger: someone who steals by threatening or performing violence.

It's also important to notice the difference between to rob and to steal (often confused by Spanish-speaking people)
I was robbed
My purse was stolen

The bank was robbed
A lot of money was stolen

And one way to explain it is this:

I was robbed = someone took something from me

I was stolen = Someone took me away. :)

ookami September 16, 2009 07:17 AM

Excellent, now I can start working :wicked:
Thanks to all. ("Gracias a todos", ¿es la mejor forma de decir esta?

chileno September 16, 2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ookami (Post 51940)
Excellent, now I can start working :wicked:
Thanks to all. ("Gracias a todos", ¿es la mejor forma de decir esta?

"Thanks to everybody" estaría bien también.

ookami September 16, 2009 09:06 AM

Thanks, that sounds better.

chileno September 16, 2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ookami (Post 51950)
Thanks, that sounds better.

Las dos se ocupan. :-)

laepelba September 16, 2009 12:41 PM

I'll add my two cents - I've never heard "stealer" before, either! :)

laepelba September 16, 2009 01:08 PM

By the way, now that I'm thinking about this topic ... how about a similar run-down of robber-related vocabulary in Spanish? Thanks!

poli September 16, 2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 52009)
By the way, now that I'm thinking about this topic ... how about a similar run-down of robber-related vocabulary in Spanish? Thanks!

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