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Arms and weapons


irmamar February 21, 2011 12:50 PM

Arms and weapons
 
Is there any difference between arms and weapons?

Thanks. :)

laepelba February 21, 2011 12:53 PM

Um, I think that they're mostly the same. But I usually think of individual items and non-gun weapons (more generic?) when I say "weapons", but "arms" would mostly be understood as "guns", and not just one gun, but more collectively "guns". I don't know that I've ever heard "arm" as one gun ... but you can have one weapon or many weapons....

irmamar February 21, 2011 01:03 PM

I'm interested in the most general term, so I think 'weapons' is the word I'm looking for (to prepare the war, people began to collect weapons). What do you think?

Perikles February 21, 2011 01:27 PM

The second amendment to the American constitution is the right to bear arms, right?

This may be my own interpretation, but it seems to me that arms can be used for attack and defence, but weapons are clearly for attack. :thinking:

poli February 21, 2011 02:05 PM

I agree with Perikles. I think arms and armor have the same root. The purpose is protection. Weapon is an instrument used for attack.
Over the years the meaning if the word arms and weapons has grown to be nearly synonomous, but the bearer of arms may think they are protecting themselves, and the victim of those arms may see them as
weapons.

pjt33 February 21, 2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 105864)
Is there any difference between arms and weapons?

De las respuestas que ya has recibido, creo que queda demostrado que hay una diferencia, pero las detalles son una idiosincrasía.

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 105866)
Um, I think that they're mostly the same. But I usually think of individual items and non-gun weapons (more generic?) when I say "weapons", but "arms" would mostly be understood as "guns", and not just one gun, but more collectively "guns". I don't know that I've ever heard "arm" as one gun ... but you can have one weapon or many weapons....

I bet you've heard the singular term "side-arm", though.

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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 105872)
The second amendment to the American constitution is the right to bear arms, right?

This may be my own interpretation, but it seems to me that arms can be used for attack and defence, but weapons are clearly for attack. :thinking:

Me parece que todo es muy gris. "Arms" puede incluir un escudo - "coat of arms" lo deja muy claro, si había dudas - pero el verbo "to arm" me parece más agresivo. "He armed himself with a poker" :good: "He armed himself with a buckler" :?:

Y luego con "weapons", creo que los varios "escudos" anti-mísiles que han sido propuesto desde Star Wars hasta hace muy poco se pueden describir como "weapons", aunque su propósito es explícitamente defensivo.

poli February 21, 2011 06:16 PM

Remember, you can arm yourself with weapons as well as a sharp wit, or immunization or a good education, or a good attorney.(blindamientos)
Arms definitely imply protection. I believe that in the true sense, arms are defensive devices, and weapons are offensive devices. As I have written before and others have written, the two words are often interchangable.

irmamar February 22, 2011 01:56 AM

I'm referring to a group of people that collect weapons/arms, with the idea of starting a war. So, weapons will be used first, because they want attack; but later, these weapons can be named arms, since because of the enemy's response, they use the former weapons to defend themselves. Therefore, limits are not so clear, or I think so (and as you said).

However, as the context is that of a militia gathering weapons, I think that this word is more appropriate in this context.

Thanks. :)


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