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Mandar vs Enviar


southUS January 03, 2012 06:12 AM

Mandar vs Enviar
 
Is it okay to use either of these words in the same way? From my understanding, they both mean "to send" as in "Podrias porfavor madarme la factura?" or "Podrias porfavor enviarme la factura?"

Is one more polite? Are there better times to use one vs the other?

Thank you,

chileno January 03, 2012 07:56 AM

Both are equally correct. But I don't know why in my mind "enviar" sounds more proper.

jrivera January 03, 2012 03:40 PM

"Mandar" also means to "to order" someone somehing. For example: Le gusta mandar - He likes giving orders.
Or: Tú no mandas aquí - You are not the one giving orders here.

That is why it sounds better to say "enviar" more polite. Both are correct.

caliber1 January 07, 2012 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrivera (Post 120295)
"Mandar" also means to "to order" someone somehing. For example: Le gusta mandar - He likes giving orders.
Or: Tú no mandas aquí - You are not the one giving orders here.

That is why it sounds better to say "enviar" more polite. Both are correct.


So does "mandar" mean to give orders and not to order something? I ask because I thought "pedir" was to order something such as food or a product.

I will try and remember "enviar", but I can't remember anyone at work using it before. Is that word used more commonly in some countries over other? Thanks everyone.

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 07, 2012 01:51 PM

To order something, like in a restaurant or some home delivery, can be "pedir" or "ordenar". "Mandar"/"enviar" can be used for the action of sending the order to the table from the kitchen or when delivery is being sent:

--¿Ya pediste/ordenaste la pizza? (Have you already ordered the pizza?)
--Sí, me dijeron que la mandan/envían en diez minutos. (Yes, I was told it will be sent in ten minutes.)


(The chef to his helper in the kitchen of a restaurant)
--En una mesa ordenaron/pidieron más tortillas. Mándaselas/envíaselas bien calientes. (There's a table where they ordered more tortillas. Send them very hot.)



The use of "mandar" as to give orders:
-Mi mamá me mandó comprar unas frutas al mercado. (Mom made me go to buy some fruits to the market.)
-Mandé a Juan que arreglara el techo. (I ordered Juan to fix the roof.)
-Manda que arreglen tus zapatos a arreglar; ya están rotos. (Make your shoes be fixed, they're already broken.)

caliber1 January 07, 2012 01:53 PM

Got it! Thanks :rose:

chileno January 07, 2012 02:46 PM

Hmmm...


Think about this:

I am sending a package to...

I am sending for Michael to be here.

What do you think?

caliber1 January 07, 2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 120473)
Hmmm...


Think about this:

I am sending a package to...

I am sending for Michael to be here.

What do you think?

They sound fine to me. "I am sending for Michael to be her" sounds old fashioned to me. Correct, but old fashioned. I probly wouldn't say it :rolleyes:
It makes me think of an English person from the Serendipity or similar movie. My wife made me watch it. I had no choice :sad:

Glen January 07, 2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by caliber1 (Post 120475)
They sound fine to me. "I am sending for Michael to be her" sounds old fashioned to me. Correct, but old fashioned. I probly wouldn't say it :rolleyes:
It makes me think of an English person from the Serendipity or similar movie. My wife made me watch it. I had no choice :sad:

For my money, "I am sending for Michael" is alright by itself, with the "to be here" well understood without having to be said.

chileno January 07, 2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliber1 (Post 120475)
They sound fine to me. "I am sending for Michael to be her" sounds old fashioned to me. Correct, but old fashioned. I probly wouldn't say it :rolleyes:
It makes me think of an English person from the Serendipity or similar movie. My wife made me watch it. I had no choice :sad:

I understand. But aren't you missing the point? :)

pjt33 January 08, 2012 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 120470)
To order something, like in a restaurant or some home delivery, can be "pedir" or "ordenar". "Mandar"/"enviar" can be used for the action of sending the order to the table from the kitchen or when delivery is being sent:

I don't think "ordenar" is used like that in Spain. And it's worth noting that it too means "to give orders".

Quote:

-Mi mamá me mandó comprar unas frutas al mercado. (Mom made me go to buy some fruits to the market.)
Vs
- Mi mamá me mandó al mercado para comprar unas frutas. (Mum sent me to the market to buy some fruit).

caliber1 January 08, 2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 120492)
I don't think "ordenar" is used like that in Spain. And it's worth noting that it too means "to give orders".


Vs
- Mi mamá me mandó al mercado para comprar unas frutas. (Mum sent me to the market to buy some fruit).

Hey pjt33! You are probly right. A Mexican guy at work said that ordenar is understood but probly only in certain countries; Mexico being one of them.

Don José January 09, 2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 120492)
I don't think "ordenar" is used like that in Spain. And it's worth noting that it too means "to give orders".


I think you are right. That meaning of "pedir" for that word is not in the RAE dictionary. It sounds to me like making up a Spanish word from English.

AngelicaDeAlquezar January 09, 2012 09:34 AM

I agree with pjt... the slight difference in sentences marks the difference of meaning:

·Mi mamá me mandó al mercado a comprar... -> She sent me.
·Mi mamá me mandó/ordenó comprar... -> She commanded me to go.

·Mandé a Juan que arreglara el techo. -> I commanded him to do it.
·Mandé a Juan a que arreglara el techo. -> I sent him up there to fix it.


·El rey manda/ordena que se cumpla la ley.
The king orders that the law is obeyed.


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