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Empollón


ROBINDESBOIS July 07, 2012 02:14 AM

How do we say in English Empollón, empollón is the student who studies a lot, so that he can have good grades in exams.The other students usually hate him

I saw swot (BE) and grind (USA)

Perikles July 07, 2012 03:26 AM

So does the GDO:

empollón-llona masculino,femenino (España familiar & peyorativo) grind (inglés norteamericano familiar), swot (inglés británico familiar & peyorativo)

aleCcowaN July 07, 2012 03:48 AM

By the way, empollón is a word used just in Spain and barely known elsewhere. I suppose every region has it's own term: in Argentina, a swot is called traga, short for tragalibros.

AngelicaDeAlquezar July 07, 2012 07:11 AM

En México se les solía llamar matados (mataditos, para darle un tono aún más despectivo) o ratones de biblioteca, pero ahora eso suena algo arcaico.
Los jóvenes ahora usan "nerd" o "ñoño".

Rusty July 07, 2012 09:13 AM

Although 'grind' is listed in the dictionary, I've never heard it used.

'Nerd' is the commonly-used word nowadays. 'Bookworm' is also used, but sounds antiquated.

JPablo July 07, 2012 05:45 PM

What about "crammer" or "plodder"? (Are these a bit old too?)
Geek?

Rusty July 07, 2012 08:01 PM

Geek is good. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
I haven't heard 'plodder'. Someone who crams for a test could be called a 'crammer', but I wouldn't use it as a general term for someone who studies a lot.

JPablo July 07, 2012 08:43 PM

Right, thank you.

I think "empollón" applies to the guy who studies a lot, even if he is not really that smart.

"Empollar" as a verb, definitely applies to "cram", particularly on the eve of the test.

Perikles July 08, 2012 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPablo (Post 126179)
Right, thank you.

I think "empollón" applies to the guy who studies a lot, even if he is not really that smart.

"Empollar" as a verb, definitely applies to "cram", particularly on the eve of the test.

In that case, 'swot' is a bad translation of empollón.

A swot is somebody who is actually interested in studying and studies possibly to the exclusion of 'normal' social activities. Probably intelligent.

To 'cram' is to to study hard, probably superficially, just before an exam, to forget it all afterwards. A totally different concept. :thinking:

ROBINDESBOIS July 08, 2012 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 126187)
In that case, 'swot' is a bad translation of empollón.

But empollón has a pejorative connotation it usually applies to people who study a lot and gets good grades. People use it with resentment and envy.

Perikles July 08, 2012 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 126189)
But empollón has a pejorative connotation it usually applies to people who study a lot and gets good grades. People use it with resentment and envy.

In that case, swot is a very good translation of empullón. :D:D

rparmst July 09, 2012 12:56 AM

I would say "teacher's pet."

Don José July 09, 2012 05:36 AM

I think a teacher`s pet is "un pelota" (in Spain):
1: a pupil who has won the teacher's special favor.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...cher%27s%20pet

Empollón and pelota are not the same thing.

JPablo July 09, 2012 01:10 PM

I agree with Don José, but it could also be that someone had both qualifiers... "un pelota y empollón que nadie podía tragar..."

Gala July 09, 2012 04:30 PM

"Grind" does have the implication that the student may not actually be particularly bright, but still dutifully "grinds" away at the subject. At least when I was in high school it was used that way by good students who were bright to describe that type: "He's not really smart, he's just a grind." It might be a bit archaic, though; I was in high school in the late 80's and haven't heard it since.


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