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We call him tortoise because he taught us.


JPablo January 15, 2013 04:59 PM

We call him tortoise because he taught us.
 
“We call him tortoise because he taught us." (Lewis Carroll)

There are several Spanish translations of this witty statement by Lewis Carroll...

However... what would be the best?

Editorial Lumen translation gives,

La llamábamos «Galápago» porque siempre estaba diciendo que tenía a «gala» enseñar en una escuela de «pago»

While this is a good play on words (not as "simple" as the original), it is ingenious, but a bit too-too for words... (in my view)

Other translations just say,

La llamábamos «tortuga» porque nos enseñaba, which makes the Spanish "literal" translation "correct", but utterly non-sequitur as a statement...

La llamábamos «tortuga» porque nos «tortugaba» con sus enseñanzas
, podría ser otra opcion...

«Le llamábamos tortuga [tortoise] porque nos enseñaba [taught us]»,

Any good/better ideas about this "infernal" conundrum? :thinking:

poli January 15, 2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPablo (Post 131729)
“We call him tortoise because he taught us." (Lewis Carroll)

There are several Spanish translations of this witty statement by Lewis Carroll...

However... what would be the best?

Editorial Lumen translation gives,

La llamábamos «Galápago» porque siempre estaba diciendo que tenía a «gala» enseñar en una escuela de «pago»

While this is a good play on words (not as "simple" as the original), it is ingenious, but a bit too-too for words... (in my view)

Other translations just say,

La llamábamos «tortuga» porque nos enseñaba, which makes the Spanish "literal" translation "correct", but utterly non-sequitur as a statement...

La llamábamos «tortuga» porque nos «tortugaba» con sus enseñanzas, podría ser otra opcion...

«Le llamábamos tortuga [tortoise] porque nos enseñaba [taught us]»,

Any good/better ideas about this "infernal" conundrum? :thinking:

Lo llamábamos morrocoyo porque nunca no dejaba en un hoyo.

JPablo January 15, 2013 07:46 PM

Hah, that's a good one! Good rhyme and sounding good...

But still something seems off, as in making it "logical" (like the English)

Lo llamábamos morrocoyo porque nunca dejaba un hoyo. (?)

(Is that your invention, or taken from somewhere?)

pjt33 January 16, 2013 01:30 AM

Testudínido debe de ofrecer alguna posibilidad con estudiar, pero igual no significa nada para la mayoría de la gente.

poli January 16, 2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPablo (Post 131741)
Hah, that's a good one! Good rhyme and sounding good...

But still something seems off, as in making it "logical" (like the English)

Lo llamábamos morrocoyo porque nunca dejaba un hoyo. (?)

(Is that your invention, or taken from somewhere?)

Again I made a typo. What I meant to write was Lo llamábamos morrocoyo porque nunca nos dejaba en un hoyo. (I mean to impy that the was a dependable tortoise whose never left us in a hole)

I did make this up. I think it is difficult to translate word play, but it's a good brain excercise.

JPablo January 16, 2013 08:30 PM

Well, thanks to both of you... it is definitely quite a brain exercise...

(Particularly because in English is so "easy" and "natural"... anything in Spanish tends to sound strained, no matter how you want to slice it...)

@Pjt33, testudíneo, (propio de la tortuga) is quite a good term... although I never heard or read that before... it is easy to clear in the DRAE...

La llamábamos «Testudíneo» porque, el muy testarudo, siempre nos enseñaba a estudiar textos de estudio... (Buff... it's another atempt, but strained at best...)

I think I am going to go with "Le llamábamos «Tortuga» porque nos «tortugaba» al enseñarnos..., which would be in accord with the old maxim, "La letra con sangre entra"... and probably is the "simplest"...

Although, as noted, I appreciate the imput!


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